You think as I do, H.. The rules have to be adjusted for IR. But, I think Mark should be able to maximize his vision alright. In saying that, I again say I don't know what his sensor is capable of. gar *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/8/08 at 11:18 AM Harold Jackson wrote: >Clayton -- > The original question that Mark asked was somewhat different than how >does one obtain sharp focus in the foreground and background of an image? >And from there, how does one change what is emphasized in the image? His >question has to do with what is acceptable practice in landscape >photography. > This to me is a question of aesthetics. He asked the question: "Is this >ever done in landscapes?" Which implies that there is some sort of list >or set of rules for shooting landscapes. > > >Question - for shots like this where you are stuck with a background >>of other trees and you have other trees to right and to left and >>sometimes in foreground - can you ever use DOF to emphasize your main >>subject? Nail focus on main subject but go very soft using DOF on, >>say, the background? Is this ever done with landscapes? > > Even his clarification is just an amplification of this question. So, >while instructive, it seems to me that your reply on how to calculate the >hyperfocal distance is off the mark. But most importantly, the >wavelengths of light in the IR portion of the spectrum are longer and >therefore do not conform so neatly to formulas that are used to calculate >hyperfocal distance. Add to that the fact that hyperfocal distance >calculations don't account for diffraction (which is a significant issue >in IR photography because it is (IR photography) is done when the sun is >brightest) and I think mere technical calculations of hyperfocal distance >don't supply the answer to Marks question. As I'm sure you recall, older >film cameras' had a separate mark on the lens that marked IR infinity that >was different than visible spectrum infinity. > > So, I think that my answer earlier about artistic judgment was closer to >the point in responding to his question. I say this not to point out that >what you're (Clayton) saying is incorrect but that what he wants to know >can't be answered with technical calculations. These opinions are just my >own and, of course, others may think otherwise. > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as >they are often being updated. > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to >unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same >page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep >them short. >- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. >Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the >membership without notice. >- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W >printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from >the membership. >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and >guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner >and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the Files >section: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� AND >�MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO >YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR >EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF >PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE >�OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN >ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE >OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) >UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) >STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE >PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Clarification - Depth of Field and Landscapes
2008-03-08 by Gary Weaver
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