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Re: r1800 3-MK modification

2008-03-22 by pr_roark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "togeorge626"
<togeorge41934@...> wrote:
>
> I recently converted a refurbished R1800 to the 3-MK workflow, and am
> getting very good results printing my scanned B&W negs on Museo II.
> However, I have some Silver Rag that I would like to use in the same
> printer, but I need some guidance in re: Paul R's changes to 3-MK to
> do this. From reading his method I assume that I would change the
> Eboni MK in the PK position to the equivalent PK ink,

I kept the MK in the PK position and ended up with MIS MP-PK in the Y
position.  One MP-PK is enough.

> and change the MK in the glop position back to glop.

Yes, put Glop in the GO position and put that MK in the C position.

> Then I would print the image
> and, after drying, run the print back through the printer using only
> the glop channel.

Yes, in the first pass I also used Glop to start the process of sticking
down the Eboni to the glossy surface.

For the second pass, make a "black" image larger than the actual image,
and use a profile that simply prints Glop at 100%.

> Afterwards I would over-spray.

The second pass is the over spray.  I do not spray these prints also. 
That is an alternative, however.  I tend to like the looks of the glop
overcoat better because it is thinner and shows more of the original
paper look.  A Print Shield spray, however, offers more protection.  The
glop seems to dry slowly and never gets as hard and abraision resistant
as the Print Shield.

>  How does one control the printer to use only the glop channel
> and nothing else?

Just make a profile with the Point List coordinates (0,0) and (100,100).
Then a black image will print 100% glop.  If you want less, make a gray
image of the percentage of glop you want.

I've put some of my profiles for glossy papers at
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1800-3MK+PK+Glop.zip
<http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1800-3MK+PK+Glop.zip>   It's not a
complete list, and be careful to note where the inks are -- they'll vary
as I change things.  The notes tab will sometimes let you know.

> How much better is the above workflow than simply
> printing Silver Rag with the 3-MK inks, and then over-spraying?


It takes a lot of glop to cover the MK -- same with Print Shield.

Frankly I cancelled my order for the Ilford Gold paper, and I'm about to
pull the glossy inks from the 1800.   If I displayed imges with no
glazing, I might continue the search for the perfect glossy print, but
from what I've seen so far, my matte printing is very safe, and pursuing
those matte printing options is a better use of my time.

Good luck with the effort.

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.PaulRoark.com>









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