Digital BW, The Print

> I must have missed the MIS post everybody is talking about. What happened?
> 
> Jerry My apologies for not stating it more clearly.

I received a message in my personal mailbox today from MIS. It was in
response to a request for more information about their inks, a long time
back. In their reply they referred me to this list, and stated it was
"developed" around their inks. I happen to know this list was developed
specifically to be free of any brand bias, other than any preferences users
may choose to share.

I felt it inappropriate of them to privately tell anyone that this list was
in anyway developed by, for, or around, them or their inks. They, as much as
we, are fortunate this list includes them, but they should take credit for
no more than that.

Mainly, I thought it fair that Antonis, and Martin, our esteemed hosts, know
that a vendor is taking credit for the existence, and/or purpose, of their
list, behind their eyes. Since MIS is insinuating this privately, to people
they presume don't already know about this list, new subscribers should have
no doubt of the true directive of this list.

Todd

 
> antonisphoto@... wrote:
> 
>> Todd,
>> 
>> Martin and I are conferring on what is the best course of action. I certainly
>> find
>> the MIS wording inappropriate. And it was certainly not done with our
>> consent.
>> 
>> We will contact them and see what their intent was (beyond what it appears).
>> I
>> sometimes think people write something with good intentions (the mutual
>> publicity benefit) but it turns out to "read" otherwise.  For the record, we
>> do find
>> it appropriate that the list is mentioned on the MIS site, as we do about all
>> other bw-related sites, just not the wording.
>> 
>> On the plus side, the nice thing about this list, is that it is
>> appropriation- and
>> cooptation-proof. The ownership and most members are end-users interested
>> in making the best monochrome prints that fit their styles. They don't have a
>> vested interest in one product over another. So, unlike a list used by a
>> Manufacturer as tech support or promotion, this one will stay on course: if
>> the
>> product doesn't work, or we like another better, you'll find out about it
>> here.
>> Nobody is asked not to mention competitive products or their prices. On the
>> contrary, the more people from different BW technologies, the better.
>> 
>> Thanks for bringing this up.
>> 
>> Antonis
>> 
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner <tflash@e...> wrote:
>> 
>>> Martin, Antonis,
>>> 
>>> As list owners you should know it appears that MIS is trying to appropriate
>>> your list, behind the scenes, for their own ends. It is my understanding
>>> this list was not "developed around these (MIS) inks", but to be inclusive
>>> of all brands and methods of digital black & white output, including but not
>>> limited to inkjet, and certainly not specifically those from MIS.
>> 
>>> Todd Flashner
>> 
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