Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen" 
<e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
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> Joost, Not all papers are ; the same thickness, take the same 
amount of time
> to absorb/dry ink, etc. The printers are pretty amazing but they 
really are
> stupid. They don't know what paper is being put into them, so you 
might need
> to make adjustments to paper feed, dry time, thickness, etc to get 
the best
> out of each paper. 

Yes, I know all this. But in this particular case we're talking about 
the combination of HPR and EEM. EEM is often advocated as a good 
draft paper for HPR. 
And indeed, the print shades I get on both papers are very much 
alike, good enough for me.

Furthermore, the QTR curve I'm using is a curve calibrated for HPR, 
not EEM. So if a paper would be priviliged, it would would be EEM 
over HPR.

> That being said, flatter smoother papers will show more detail that 
rougher
> papers. EEM is a smoother paper than HPR 308. is that 188 you are 
using? 

I'm using HPR 308, which is indeed somewhat rougher than EEM. But I'm 
surprised if this could explain the difference?? 

Can I expect a different result on HPR 188?? 


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> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joost
> Horsten
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:30 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] more detail with EEM than with PhotoRag(?)
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> Hi all,
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> Normally, PhotoRag is my paper of choice and I use Epson Enhanced 
> Matte as draft paper. My default print size is A4.
> 
> Lately I'm making some smaller prints (A5-A6) with quite some 
detail. 
> And I notice that my EEM prints show clearly more detail than the 
> ones on PhotoRag. The paper is the only thing that changes. All 
> prints are made on an Epson 2100, UT3D inks, QTR. In both cases I 
use 
> the very same QTR curves (made with an Eye-One). No, I don't print 
on 
> the back side of PhotoRag - once in a while I do by mistake, and 
then 
> the difference is MUCH bigger :O).
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> I think I observed the same phenomenon earlier, but can not recall 
it 
> was that clear. Perhaps I notice better because of the smaller 
print 
> size? Or I got a different batch (of both PhotoRag and EEM) with 
some 
> more difference.
> 
> Have you seen the same thing?
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> Joost
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