Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner <tflash@e...> 
wrote:
> Alan Zinn wrote:
>  
> > I think the confusion lies in that MW published the  "Zone System 
Manual  -
> > Ansel Adams Zone System as a Basis of intuitive Photography." 
(1967) He
> > based it on his experiences teaching it at MIT and RIT. Nowhere in 
the book
> > does he take credit for inventing it with Adams.
> > 
> > AZ
> 
> Nor did anybody on this list say he did or should take credit for 
it, what I
> said was he was an early pioneer of it, in as much as Edward Weston 
and some
> others were. I don't see why that's so difficult for some to accept 
- (do we
> need to get into the semantics of the word "pioneer"?) - probably 
has
> something to do with the perception that Adams and Weston were gods 
and all
> others mere mortals.
> 
> Todd

hello,

ansel and weston were in thinking and approach.while ansel was a 
tech-head of his era, weston was the hippie of his..ansel wroteabout 
his exposures, weston wrote about his life..as far as artists go 
weston was far ahead of adams.he used whatever he had at hand often 
exposing film for hours eg pepper#33..he had a very sucessful, for his 
time, portrait studio in glendale which he abandoned to pursue his 
art,ansel was also a commercial shooter first,better at product 
and cold things than at portraits,then a photographer on a very nice 
grant at that time.
the confusion comes with the weston meter,which edward did not 
invent,and the zone system refered to it...the all mighty zone 5or 6 
for skin..
they both influenced each other,even as freinds,but when it came to 
party hardy,weston was the king...the vangogh of photography,ansel to 
me was a primadonna....both were superb photographers.