Digital BW, The Print

I have Print Fix Pro with an R220.  I didn't find the ICC workflow all
that useful- if your goal is to dial in dead neutral or slight
variations thereof on different papers it could be helpful, but I
didn't find soft proofing all that accurate for toning and if you go
too far you'll see posterization in your prints. 

I do recommend linearizing with PFP and the QTR create ICC tool and
for mild toning it's easy to use a modified Clayton Jones method- warm
Ms, cool Cs and cool Y and linearize ICCs for a couple of settings
(C+20M-20, C-20, M+20, color controls neutral).  I like the results I
get this way with the UTR2 inkset on the R220.

Roger


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joost Horsten"
<j.h.j.h@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "robert49brake" 
> <robert49brake@> wrote:
> 
> As a disclaimer: I have no direct experience with the icc profile/color 
> workflow of ut3d+2100. But I have considered it seriously and took a 
> lot of advice, amongst others from Datacolor's David Tobie. 
> 
> What I learned: in theory the icc/color workflow gives one the 
> opportunity to (split)-toning in Photoshop, preview it on screen and 
> print it. In practice however, the color gamut one can obtain is very 
> limited, apparently difficult to discriminate from neutral. 
> 
> As a result I stayed with my 2100 + ut3d + eye-one + QTR workflow. 
> 
> To be totally honest: this was because I aready owned an eye-one. If I 
> would have a spider, I would consider the icc workflow for different 
> reasons: on windows one can't print directly to QTR. In a color 
> workflow this is much easier. 
> 
> Frankly, the toning possibilities of UT3D (or whatever other inkset) do 
> not appeal very much to me anymore. These days, I just print neutral. 
> In terms of ease of profiling, UT3D is actually a pretty convenient 
> inkset to get a dead neutral (= fractional lab a and lab b values) QTR 
> profile. The pre-mixed inks make this rather simple. On the other hand, 
> if I would set up my 2100 from scratch I would probably go for the 4k+ 
> inkset (standard inks, possibility to get dead neutral prints as well, 
> glossy prints and, ok...., toning still possible).
> 
> Joost
> 
> 
>  
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> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "fogmarco" 
> > <marco.fogarolo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to create new icc profile for ut3d with 2100.
> > > still today I used a old densitometer with the Paul Roark workflow 
> > > (thank you Paul).
> > > Now I have available the new datacolor spyder3print and I have some 
> > > question:
> > > 1- is possible to create directly the profile for ut-3d with this 
> > > software? The guide say that I need the 2.0 version.
> > > 2 - I will have better result using directly the datacolor software 
> or 
> > > is better to going on with paul workflow?
> > >
>