Phil, >...more questions about choosing or creating my ideal lustre set. > > My aim is Ilford Gold Fibre on 1400 using QTR. > My ideal tonality would move from Warm/Neutral Shadows, > Neutral Midtones and up to Cool/Neutral highlights. See page 9 of http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT14.pdf This is rather like the approach LensWork magazine uses. I thought you liked PKN and cool shadows. > I note that on the UTRC set, there are 3 separate sets... > warm, cool and neutral. > But my ideal set is not one temperature...I want a split. Yes, you can do that by using different inks in different positions or having a variable tone inkset and using curves/profiles to control the tone. For the R260, what I'd consider an entry level printer, I made the assumption most would prefer the easiest workflow. The plug and play approach with no curves is easiest. For the UT14, I assumed a more hands-one user who might want more control -- thus the variable tone. > I am also making the assumption that the > UTRC set are greys...not the strong toner color of the > earlier sets. Yes, most of the inksets I'm now recommending use gray inks that are easier to profile than are the strong toners. It's hard to make a really bad print with these inksets. > First, my assumption is that these UTRC sets each have > same basic degree of color > temperature with different dilutions....yes??? Yes. There are 3 sets -- warm (100% carbon), neutral (20% color) and cool (30% color). You can mix the sets. With the UT14 I kicked the color up to 40% because it's a variable tone where people will want both the cool and warm jets firing most of the time. But, with both inksets available in bulk and both using the same toner (cyan-blue) mix, everyone has a broad range of inks that will all match and not have any weird color cross-overs. As you can see from the charts at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT14.pdf the mixes keep Lab A close to where the papers set it, but usually with just a slight rise. In general, we don't seem to like any green tints in our prints. So, Lab B is the main variable. > So I am wondering if I could start with my black position one > of the new PKneutral You'll note in my examples with the RC inkset I usualy used PKN. However, on glossy papers, this is usually slightly cool. > 2nd ink a warm dark grey, 3rd a neutral mid grey, and then 4th > and 5th warm grey and cool grey toners and a glop as the 6th > position. Consider 2 profiles -- one warm and the other cool. Then use the sliders to make whatever split tone you want. Each profile would, of course, have the PKN and glop in it. I assume you have a new QTR that has the sliders for highlights, midtones and shadows. If not, download it and you'll see what I'm talking about. I have not given this a try yet, but it looks like a nice way to play around with various split tones. If you want cool highlights, you better consider the UT14 cool inks there. Aside from that, you're really going to just have to try it and see what happens. It sounds like your warm channel -- LK and LLK - will be fine. Your cool channel of RCN-PK, plus dilutions of the other PKNs mentioned and a glop will give you everything you need. Good luck. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
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Re: Inks for Lustre papers--a question directed at Paul Roark
2008-08-22 by pr_roark
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