Digital BW, The Print

I'm sure you know this but it's worth stating on a regular basis. The toys won't make your 
prints luminous, you will. And since a small minority od B&W prints out there in the world 
deserve that description, the conclusion is that we all have a lot of work to do.

Eric and others here are certainly experienced workers whose input should be taken 
seriously, but I use nothing but Photoshop, and many years later still learn new ways 
within it's tool possibilities to make better prints.

Tyler
http://www.custom-digital.com/

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "maximalimage" <wparsons@...> 
wrote:
>
> Eric, I have the CIS for the 1400 from Jon Cone with his K6 inks 
> that are specially formulated for this printer.  I like what I'm 
> getting, using Hahnemule 360 Photo Rag (matte); I've always liked 
> this paper.
> 
> Did my first print a weekend ago and like it.  I just want it to be 
> more luminous.  Waiting to see what toys to use.
> 
> tnx,  Bill
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E Neilsen" 
> <e.neilsen2@> wrote:
> >
> > While the latest version of Photoshop is quite robust with the 
> controls you
> > need for B&W conversion there are alternatives. I use RealGrain 
> for some of
> > my work. I expect it will be improving soon. There are just so 
> many ways to
> > do it, much of your workflow should be decided by what you already 
> have and
> > know well. The RealGrain plugin does a great job of maintaining 
> your data
> > while allowing you to adjust your tonal range. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Also what are you planning on printing with; the ink set.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Eric  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Eric Neilsen Photo
> > 
> > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> > 
> > Dallas, TX 75226
> > 
> > 214 827-8301
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> > 
> > SKype ejprinter
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> pr_roark
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:04 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Would like some suggestions for b/w 
> processing
> > software
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > ... would like to hear what others are doing to enhance
> > > the b/w zones and luminosity ...
> > 
> > > ... filter set from ... a couple of others.
> > 
> > I stay in Photoshop as much as possible. I think it is a deep 
> enough 
> > tool set that I can do almost everything I need to. (And QTR does 
> the 
> > rest.) It's a long learning curve, but it's worth the investment.
> > 
> > I personally use, for example, PS's image adjustment curves on a 
> > duplicate image, visually judging the effects on one particular 
> area, 
> > but also on the entire image with a overall plan for guiding the 
> eye 
> > via (Lab L) tonal adjustments. I then clone over the parts of the 
> > manipulated image I like. I, in effect, paint in the luminousity 
> > adjustments.
> > 
> > Levels and its histogram are also vital. Our medium does not have 
> much 
> > dynamic range, so I use it all.
> > 
> > There are all sorts of ways to do these things within a single 
> toolset -
> > - Photoshop. As a former darkroom silver printer, the depth of and 
> > efficiency of the PS toolset is one of the main reasons I'm in 
> digital.
> > 
> > FWIW
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>