Digital BW, The Print

Tyler, very nicely put.

I made my first Piezo (K6) print about a week ago.  When I looked at 
it I could see that it needed some tweeking and shuddered 
involuntarily when I recalled the many occasions when it took me 3 
hours to get a print "right" in the darkroom -- I hope it'll be 
easier in the light room to get these b/w prints right.

Our lives, as light room printers, are subjugated to hardware and 
software changes.  In my darkroom, with the Zone VI equipment I had, 
I could reake a 5-year-old image that looked exactly like the 
original print.

Now, in my light room, I have to recalibrate my processes 
continuously as the hw and sw change.  While we're all making 
progress, the interrupts get in the way of making pictures.

Bill


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@...> wrote:
>
> I'm sure you know this but it's worth stating on a regular basis. 
The toys won't make your 
> prints luminous, you will. And since a small minority od B&W 
prints out there in the world 
> deserve that description, the conclusion is that we all have a lot 
of work to do.
> 
> Eric and others here are certainly experienced workers whose input 
should be taken 
> seriously, but I use nothing but Photoshop, and many years later 
still learn new ways 
> within it's tool possibilities to make better prints.
> 
> Tyler
> http://www.custom-digital.com/
> 
> --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "maximalimage" 
<wparsons@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Eric, I have the CIS for the 1400 from Jon Cone with his K6 inks 
> > that are specially formulated for this printer.  I like what I'm 
> > getting, using Hahnemule 360 Photo Rag (matte); I've always 
liked 
> > this paper.
> > 
> > Did my first print a weekend ago and like it.  I just want it to 
be 
> > more luminous.  Waiting to see what toys to use.
> > 
> > tnx,  Bill
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E Neilsen" 
> > <e.neilsen2@> wrote:
> > >
> > > While the latest version of Photoshop is quite robust with the 
> > controls you
> > > need for B&W conversion there are alternatives. I use 
RealGrain 
> > for some of
> > > my work. I expect it will be improving soon. There are just so 
> > many ways to
> > > do it, much of your workflow should be decided by what you 
already 
> > have and
> > > know well. The RealGrain plugin does a great job of 
maintaining 
> > your data
> > > while allowing you to adjust your tonal range. 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Also what are you planning on printing with; the ink set.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Eric  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Eric Neilsen Photo
> > > 
> > > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> > > 
> > > Dallas, TX 75226
> > > 
> > > 214 827-8301
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> > > 
> > > SKype ejprinter
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   _____  
> > > 
> > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of 
> > pr_roark
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:04 PM
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Would like some suggestions for b/w 
> > processing
> > > software
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > > ... would like to hear what others are doing to enhance
> > > > the b/w zones and luminosity ...
> > > 
> > > > ... filter set from ... a couple of others.
> > > 
> > > I stay in Photoshop as much as possible. I think it is a deep 
> > enough 
> > > tool set that I can do almost everything I need to. (And QTR 
does 
> > the 
> > > rest.) It's a long learning curve, but it's worth the 
investment.
> > > 
> > > I personally use, for example, PS's image adjustment curves on 
a 
> > > duplicate image, visually judging the effects on one 
particular 
> > area, 
> > > but also on the entire image with a overall plan for guiding 
the 
> > eye 
> > > via (Lab L) tonal adjustments. I then clone over the parts of 
the 
> > > manipulated image I like. I, in effect, paint in the 
luminousity 
> > > adjustments.
> > > 
> > > Levels and its histogram are also vital. Our medium does not 
have 
> > much 
> > > dynamic range, so I use it all.
> > > 
> > > There are all sorts of ways to do these things within a single 
> > toolset -
> > > - Photoshop. As a former darkroom silver printer, the depth of 
and 
> > > efficiency of the PS toolset is one of the main reasons I'm in 
> > digital.
> > > 
> > > FWIW
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>