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Re:Dry mounting digital prints?

2008-09-20 by Frank K

Of course people will see more value in a print that is 
called "Giclee" because a lot of people are stupid and think if it 
has a french name it is something special. Call it what it is if one 
is worried about ethics..sprayed ink...or pigment inks..or dye 
inks...
    When I sell my prints the print speaks not the process. I have 
silver halide, pigment ink, dye ink, both from an inkjet printer, 
carbon ink, from inkjet also...I have photos manipulated with 
watercolor paints, acrylics etc. I do not give it a fancy name. When 
someone asks it is described as..."Mixed media using, dyes, paints, 
acrylics, bee pollen, whatever is in it. 
     I would imagine that the photographers who used 
daguerreotypes "felt" that calotypes weren't photographs either. And 
the wet plate folks did'nt think the dry plates were "real 
photographs" . 8x10 shooters, vs 4x5, Graphlex shooters vs, roll 
film users, 2.25 in. vs 35 mm....film vs. digital.. the Is it art? 
argument...all of them...useless, silly, wastes of time...what 
matters is the final print...period.  
     Photography is the process where light is captured on a light 
sensitive material..it is the capture that dictates whether 
something is a photograph or not. Do'nt believe me..check a 
dictionary. But, if one believes photographs must be printed on 
silver halide, then the years of Life Magazine, Nat Geo, Look, etc 
etc did not show photos but showed....???what. 
  Digital is upon us and will stay. People take photographs with 
their digital light capturing sensors and print them either as ink 
prints, C Prints, or any other foreign sounding name you can give 
them.
   And in case anyone needs some sodium thiosulphate for a fix bath 
let me know. I wo'nt ever touch that stuff again.
Just my two cents...with gas prices this high, make it a quarter's 
worth
Frank in NJ

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, ben schneider 
<benjschneider2@...> wrote:

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> I also think of Ink Jet Prints as being different then 
Photographs.  I have argued this ethical, and aesthetic point many 
times.  I consider Silver/Gelatin prints a whole other class of art, 
digital ink jet printing another.  When I sell digitally produced 
images, I do not call them photographs.  I sell them as Giclee 
Prints.  Adding this title to them, makes people think they are more 
exclusive.  
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> Personally I consider injet printing more akin to Lithography as a 
print class.  Images made from cyan, magenta, yellow, and black ink 
dots on paper.  It is just the method of applying the ink that is 
different.
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> Ben
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