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Re: [Digital BW] Photorag 308 turning yellow

2002-02-10 by Michael Kravit

Robert,

The Hahnemuhle papers I buy are actually the Lyson version. I buy the
37-1/2"x47-3/4" (or someting close to that) sheets. They come packaged in a
box and wrapped in plastic.

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Rex" <chameleon@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photorag 308 turning yellow


> I'll chime in a bit here.
> My thoughts are that since Michael (in FLA) is having different
experiences
> from Jeff, and that Jeff's (located where?) experience has been yellowing
> not due to light, that the yellowing may be due to the OBA's or some
> reaction between the OBA or coating and the environment.
> first question:  how are the Hahnemuhle papers packaged?  I remember
> Somerset E had a yellowing problem several months back which seemed to be
> caused from a reaction between the coating and the plastic bag in which it
> was packaged.  I think this has now been corrected.  I also remember that
> the Lyson FA (hahnemuhle re-branded) papers turned yellow when exposed to
> corrugated cardboard (probably the acid in the cardboard leaching into the
> FA paper.
> second question: what is the environment in your studio, Jeff?  humidity,
> temperature.
> third: see if there is a lot number on the package.  report it to whomever
> you purchased that box from.  it may be a bad batch, and see if you can
get
> a replacement box.  If you can, than with the replacement box try
something
> different: get the RH to at least 50% (temp at 65-75) and keep the paper
in
> the same room withe the ink and printers.
>
> ...Or just use Museo {insert very big grin here} and help pay for my
salary;).
>
> hope these thoughts help,
> sincere regards
> robert rex
> yes, i still work for crane & co
>
> At 01:30 PM 2/9/02 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >""<>
> ><>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 9:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photorag 308 turning yellow
> >
> >
> >
> > (snip)
> >
> >> Can anyone recommend a paper with similar white base
> >> and dmax? I suspect that the other Hahnemuhle papers using
> >> OBs will yellow as well. Too bad.
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Any paper with a base as white or whiter than Photo Rag is going to have
> > OBA's. Including all of Hahnemuhle papers.
> >
> > Eclipse Satine is a favorite of mine. A very neutral white and brighter
than
> > Photo Rag but it also has OBA's.
> >
> > Museo has no OBA's but you will probably find that both the Dmin and
Dmax
> > are not up to the level of papers with OBA's.
> >
> > Since there have been no other reports of yellowing Photo Rag, I wonder
if
> > there is something else going on in your environment.
> >
> > Martin
> >
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