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Re: [Digital BW] GLOP idea

2008-11-06 by john dean

Well he's got a point Ernst, the Z does lay down gloss enhancer
superbly for the rc papers, especially their Pro Satin that is totally
worked out. However, it is NOT always enough for the fiber gloss
media. Personally I've experienced great resuts with most of these
papers on the Z for color but more often than not with the fiber gloss
media and black and white, there is NOT enough go laid down, resulting
in very objectionable (to me) gloss differiental.( yea you wouldn't
see it behind glass). This varies significantly with various media.
Such as Harmon fiber gloss not being usable even with color, Innova
some gloss differential with color and bad with black and white,
Ilford Gallerie Gold great with color very bad with black and white
:-(, Crane Silver Rag very good with both color and black and white.
All look good with one strong coat of Premier Art spray, but who needs
that headache for large things.

I just bought the Hahnemuhle Photorag Baryta to try this weekend,
which I hear is a very good fit for everything on the Z, as well as
the new Baryta that HP has designed for their inks that may or may not
be the same paper...?  These might be the answer, along with Crane
Silver Rag. 

But, it would indeed be nice if one could run a second pass of the go 
inorder to work effectively with all this media. OR, as you say the
Z3200 allows, control of the amount used per media apart from the
other channels. Or Studio Print for 12 inks.

Is there any way that could be controlled on the 3100 apart from a
second run?

John




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
<edinkla@...> wrote:
>
> James W Veenstra wrote:
> > I think this is basically what my z3100ps GP does with its 12th head  
> > of "gloss enhancer".  J Vee
> 
> Basically yes but with a difference. I own a Z3100 too. The 
> difference is that the Z3100 will lay down the gloss 
> enhancer right with the other inks, like the Epson 
> R800/1800. In the case discussed the gloss enhancer is laid 
> down in a second print run after the image is printed. In 
> theory one could lay down more gloss enhancer that way as 
> the printed image could dry in between. In practice the 
> Z3100 already lays down enough gloss enhancer. On top of 
> that the Z3200 adds control of the amount of gloss enhancer 
> applied. The other advantage of the Z3100/Z3200 in applying 
> the gloss enhancer is the direct register when using the 
> Economy Mode, only the image gets gloss enhancer, not the 
> margins around. That is a lot more difficult with two print 
> runs.
> 
> -- 
> Met vriendelijke groeten,  Ernst
> 
> 
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