Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Bill Agee <billagee@r...> 
wrote:

> Wanting to try some different inks in my 1270 printer, I figured 
that 
> using a nomorecarts cis solution would be the way to go,

maybe figure what ink you want to use long term first? And consider if 
CIS has a screen in the cart or not, etc.

 I don't mind filling carts, just 
> want to know if reliable chipped carts exist that work well.  I can 
> fill a lot of carts ( while watching the nightly news) for the $250 
> tag of a cis.

yes it's little problem.

> 
> Looking at...
> 
> http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/cartridges.html
> 
> ...I noticed that MIS sells chipped cartridges filled with their own 
> pigment archival ink...They are convenient, though expensive.

I used a set of these on my 1280 and both the Y and K ran out 
prematurely, at 25% and 30% respectively. Coulds have been a bum set, 
but I can fill my own very accurately.

  They 
> also sell T009 and TOO7  empty cartridges.  Chips are extra.  They 
> sell a chip re_setter to show full condition when cartridges are 
> loaded.


Yes, and you just pop the chips on and off. I use a microdab of RTV 
glue. Or buy the virgins from WeInK, costs more, but chip attached. 
Then you can use their QB7 resetter (hardware) which works fine with 
the Too7, and fairly well with the T009- you have to guide it a bit 
more closely. WeInk (or mediastreet?) sells a different resetter (from 
Lyson) with a light on it for confirmation. The software resetter hung 
my Win98SE machine, but might work if you reset computer and printer 
first, and are using Win98 only on LPT port.
> 
> Does anyone on this list use this MIS virgin ink cartridge system 
and 
> if so is it working ok?

Yes. I beta tested MIS brand new vacuum top refil system for the 
carts, and it's pretty easy. Look under "news" on their site. This 
method doesn't damage the screens like the bottom fill method may, and 
it draws the ink in from the top, not bottom, so it gets to get 
filtered through the screen. MIS is a little skimpy on procedure but I 
wrote my own up, somewhere on my 'puter.


  What are poppets?

They are ingenious little valves that immeadieately seal the exit 
ports of EPSON carts only, when you remove them from 1280 say( 1160 
doesn't have them). So you can re-install EPSON cart another day, no 
problem with ink leakage or air pockets. After market carts haven't 
been able to copy, too bad, so these are only to be found on Epson 
origianl carts. The Virgin empties don't have them unfortunately.

  Are they the little 
metal 
> studs that go into the bottom of the cartridge to keep the ink from 
> leaking out?


Not at all. Those are metal rivets MIS sells to plug the exit port on 
bottom of  non EPSON cart. Many people think they serve the same 
purpose, but I always got pockets of air that I patiently had to clear 
when I pulled them out and reinstalled aftermarket carts.


But you don't need to worry about poppets and rivits because the 
virgin empties are sealed at the bottom with a clear tape. After you 
fill the cart with the vacuum fill method, you install the cart and 
the seal gets punched through. Using the older bottom fill method, you 
do have to break the bottom seal and insert a rivit...but try the new 
method, it works fine.
> 
> Any on or off-forum information anyone has would be helpful.  I use 
> this system for an 1160, but never with a chipped printer.

Just a little more horsing around, that's all...
Jim H.
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> Bill Agee
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