pr_roark wrote: > > Did you also notice the very low amount of carbon in the HP ink? > They claim their pigments are simply darker. I know that is one area > where advances were on the horizon. In any case, the small amount of > carbon makes me curious about the longevity. I know the Wilhelm > ratings are excellent, but that could be in due to HP's ability to do > greater grey substitution in color and none at all in B&W. I also > expect that coating technology will ultimately advance to the point > where the coatings are oxygen barriers. What I'll do is run a test > of the a diluted Eboni against an equal density of the HP grey and > see how they compare. Paul, The Vivera B&W ratings are excellent, nothing touches it. I know the argument that the long black generation and no composite greys suit the Wilhelm and Image Engineering tests but on the other hand I have not seen evidence in other test results yet that the remaining color mixes degrade faster than the primary colors. What has been mentioned here and linked to were older dye ink results that went wrong in composite greys and secondary mixes. Discussed here not so long ago in relation to catalytic fading. Anyway if the ink chemistry and the way to lay them down makes it harder to fade the B&W prints without sacrificing image quality then HP did a good job. If better test methods show that the secondary mixes in color printing still show more fading than the primaries then there's work to be done, but it may still be better than Epson's ratings. Canon could have done or already does the same as HP but the tests score lower than HP. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
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Re: [Digital BW] HP Vivera pigments
2008-12-04 by Ernst Dinkla
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