Digital BW, The Print

> Hi Steadman,

> When you compare the curves of the VM inkset with the PiezoBW prints:
>
> 1.  Is the PiezoBW closer to the "medium warm" or "warm"

I'd say warm.

> 2.  Does the VM variable nature allow you to go beyond the warmth of PiezoBW...in other words get it even warmer? (I like really warm prints.)

Using the toner slider all the way to the left would probably give you a slightly warmer print than the warm curve, but not a large difference. The toner sliders are for fine tuning.
(it's the magenta/green slider for the 1280 and the Yellow Blue SLider for the 1160).

If you really want a WARM print, I can help you out by making your print as sepia as you want it by just using the color balance in Photoshop. Start with about 40 Yellow and 20
Magenta, and then just go up or down from there. There's also the many sepia tone duotones available in Photoshop. In any case there should probably be a little more yellow than
magenta in your final mix.

> 3.  Do you have to flush your CIS of PiezoBW inks before using the VM inks...or can one just fill up (top off) the 4 ounce bottles  with the VM inks to replace the Piezo inks?

I've never flushed. (except on the 3000 printer when I was using Lyson Fotonics)

>
> 4. Does anyone out there know if there are any "compatibility issues" with pouring the VM inks into a CIS that has been using PiezoBW and is not "clean."

I've done it. Generations and MIS are 100 percent compatible with epson original inks. So is piezo. I've used Generations photo Magenta and Photo Cyan mixed with Piezo yellow for cold
tones before the VM inkset was available.

>
> 5.  If my PiezoBW inkset is running low on Black...can I just buy some MIS VM Black and pour it in on top of my PiezoBW Black to use until I run low on the other Piezo tones (CYM)?

I think so. I think the two inks are probably the same base. I could be wrong though. I believe you can mix all the blacks except lyson's with each other. I've mixed Generations
Enhanced Black, Generations Beta Black (Which i believe are the same inks), MIS, Piezo and Ilford Archiva together with no problems.

In my 1280 I just went directly from the original color inks that came with it to the Variable MIS hextone set. No problems.

> 6.  Dotless?
> Was it the VM and Paul's Curves that is Dotless....or is it the Full Spectrum using the Piezo software?  Or is it both?

THe VM curves produce dotless prints. Haven't used the full spectrum. I believe that the Full Spectrum inks are identical to the Piezo inkset (i.e. the Cone Clone), same colors, same
inks.  Just a much much lower price. Ask Bob about that.

>
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Steadman
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jerry Olson
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 8:23 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Two Ink Sets?
>
>   No, you don't need the piezo driver. I believe the MIS full spectrum inks
>   are supposed to be a Cone Clone, identical to the piezo inks but at a much
>   more reasonable price.   However, I don't like the brownish tones of the
>   Piezo inks. The variable inks have it all. There are 5 curves, Cold, Cool,
>   Neutral, Medium Warm and Warm. You can further define your favorite tone
>   between any of the two curves by using the Magenta slider in the epson
>   dialogue box. Slide it towards magenta, and your image gets bluer. Slide it
>   to the green side and it gets warmer. The Magenta position is a very bluish
>   ink. It will determine how brown or blue your prints get. This is for the
>   1280 printer. If you are using an 1160, it's the Yellow/blue position slider
>   that determines if you get more blue or more brown tones to your curve. The
>   most beautiful tones I've gotten is with the Neutral curve and +20 Magenta
>   (1280 6 ink printer). It is the exact shade I like in my prints. On the New
>   Legion Photo matte paper it is beautiful. This is the whitest paper I've
>   ever seen, and has very deep blacks. It's about twice the thickness (230
>   gsms) of Epson's Heavyweight Matte paper.
>
>   Jerry
>
>   > So you are saying I'll get Piezography quality with the MIS
>   > Variable Mix quads and Paul's curves? I don't need to  buy the
>   > MIS Full Spectrum Inks and use my Piezography driver?
>
>   Yes
>
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