Digital BW, The Print

Following up on David Tobie's suggestion, I had the time tonight to run 
other tests and found the following:  as David suggested, the new profile 
was not the issue - I could print using that profile and another custom 
profile to enhanced matte paper just fine.  The problem seems to arise in 
the handling section of the Epson driver.  When I attempt to load this 
particular paper, Stone Editions Velvet 12x12, as Stone Editions suggests - 
manually from the rear as if it were Watercolor Radiant White, sometimes, 
but not everytime, the printer simply stalls regardless of the profile or 
using Epson ABW.  Sigh.  Any hints?  Thx.  Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Strain" <platinumjstrain@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Odd B&W Printing issue


David: Totally agree that I have not tried everything to rule out 
everything. I was really hoping that there was something simple that I was 
missing. I will try both another profile that I have made and one of the 
Epson canned profiles to see whether they work. It was clearly somekind of 
communication error between the computer and the printer. Jim

--- On Mon, 12/8/08, cdtobie <CDTobie@...> wrote:

From: cdtobie <CDTobie@...>
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Odd B&W Printing issue
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 10:25 AM






This is not anything I've ever heard of, and I'm deeply suspicious of your 
implied cause and effect. Please print the same image twice, once with 
another custom profile, and again with this one, and confirm that this quirk 
happens with only this profile. I will bet it does not. Your current 
comparison has too many variables to be conclusive.. .

-
C. David Tobie
WW Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor
CDTobie@datacolor. com
www.datacolor. com/spyder3

On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:05:02 AM, "James Strain" <platinumjstrain@ ameritech. 
net> wrote:

From: "James Strain" <platinumjstrain@ ameritech. net>
Subject: [Digital BW] Odd B&W Printing issue
Date: December 8, 2008 10:05:02 AM EST
To: DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com
Folks - Help.\ufffd MacPro, MAC OSX 10.5.*, Epson 3800.\ufffd Latest driver, I 
believe.\ufffd Have an 8-bit RGB, but B&W image that I am attempting to print.\ufffd 
To get a color closer to my platinum-palladium prints, I went into 
Hue/Saturation in Photoshop (CS3), checked colorize, took Hue to 35 and 
Saturation to 5.\ufffd Resulted in a rich looking color on screen.\ufffd \ufffd
\ufffd
I then attempted to print using Photoshop CS3 - Photoshop manages colors 
selecting a profile for the paper that I made using Datacolor Spyder3 Print, 
with the extended gray set.\ufffd In the Epson driver, chose "No color 
management."\ufffd Instead of printing, the printer reported that it was 
receiving data, and periodically, the printhead would make a run across the 
paper but not lay down any ink.\ufffd Just for fun (and to make sure the computer 
and printer were talking to each\ufffd other), \ufffd I left every setting the same, 
reloaded the\ufffd same piece of paper, and selected in Photoshop\ufffd "Printer 
manages color" and in the Epson Driver "Advanced B&W" with a selection of\ufffd 
enhanced warm tones that I like.\ufffd Printed like a charm, quickly, accurately, 
but not as richly as I think the profiled print should have been.\ufffd
\ufffd
To be sure, I had printed the Datacolor test page after creating the ex gray 
profile and it printed beautifully.\ufffd Anyone run across this problem?\ufffd Thx.\ufffd 
Jim

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