Steve, I am not an expert in digital black and white techniques but I have been working on this topic for three years and have accumulated some insight into the issues. Also I did large format (8x10) black and white for 30 years in the darkroom. I have compared K3 with Cone K7. As they say there are "strengths and weaknesses" to most things and this topic is not an exception. I will try and summarize a few of them that I think are most important. K3 images overall look very nice to most people. Strength K3 has great blacks density wise . Strength. K3 is able to produce many shades of black and white from warm to cool tone. Strength K3 is producing these many tones with color ink that may not be archival as one would like. Weakness K3 black and white has hints of color in the black and white images when looked at under different lights. Weakness K3 is very expensive. weakness. K7 images look very nice to most people. Strength K7 black are weak density wise. Weakness K7 offers several shades of black and white ink. Strength K7 Inks are considered to be archival. Strength K7 Inks are fully black and white with no hint of color under any light I have used. Strength K7 Inks are very cost effective. Strength. So there you have my findings so far in my black and white digital journey. I am not an expert and would not even consider myself advanced in digital black and white but I have made three or four hundred test prints and work on black and white digital imaging every day. In conclusion at this time I would consider K7 a better option in most cases but I need a blacker blacks to be happy. Over the past several months I have been using MIS K6 in my other printer and have additional strengths and weaknesses for these ink. The bottom line is I want a cool tone ink that is archival, without color and has blacks at a density range of 2.0 or above on matte paper. Am I asking for too much? Thanks for asking. I hope others will contribute or dispute my findings so that I can find the perfect system for making digital black and white prints and get back to taking pictures. Gary Wagner From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steveabrink Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:09 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 3800 ABW & C7 inks Oops,I meant ABW/K3 (epson UC inks)... --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "steveabrink" <steveabrink@...> wrote: > > Gary, > > If you've compared Cone K7 with ABW/K4 would you have any > feedback...? > > I tried a couple of years back the C88+/MIS workflow but saw little > if any improvement over ABW... > > Thanks in advance, > SteveB > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 3800 ABW & C7 inks
2009-01-11 by Gary Wagner
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