Ernst Dinkla <edinkla@...> wrote: > The carts are 130 ml on the Z3100/Z3200 I was able to pull 140 grams of ink from the Z3100 PK cart. At $67, it's more than I like to pay for ink, but a 30% dilution for "LK" the HP ink cost is right down where it ought to be, and at another 30% dilution for LLK, it's less than any commercially available ink. > ... pump also stirs that ink content above it, ... I thought HP would not let a settling problem go unsolved. >... The Z models go in > sleep mode when idle but will awake several times a day to > check nozzles etc and it is likely that the pumps are > actuated then. I suspect checking the nozzles is actually secondary to stirring the ink, but they probably don't want to advertise that issue. > ... HP has a piƫzohead design of its own > but decided to use a thermal head. > They can, apparently, use semiconductor fabrication technology for the thermal heads, which is a huge cost advantage. For the HP-based B&W inkset I'm considering, it looks like I'll end up with 2 dilution bases. The target glycol & glycerol mix is the Epson MK 15% for each. To get there, however, I'll use more in a first 1:1 mix with the HP PK. After that the same 15%-15% base can be use for the other dilutions, working from the 1:1 mix. Contrary to my comment above, I'm not targeting the LK-LLK standards at all (where the traditional 30% dilution is very close with HP PK). I'm working initially to a simple 4-dilution spread: 50%, 20%, 10%, and 5%. That leaves 2 spots for K (Eboni or any PK) and a warm carbon toner in the Y position (probably MIS or UC K2 LLK for glossy or an "LLK" equivalent diluted UC MK for matte, which is my interest). I do need a warm toner to overcome the HP PK's too-cold tone for my tastes. The buffering with TEA and citric acid seems to work. I dilute both to 10% solutions first. Then a 10 TEA to 1 Citric acid ratio seems to hit the target pH. 1% Edwal LFN wetting agent, in addition to the Photo Flo percentage used in the C6 mix, seems to give the final enough surfactant that it's printing smoothly in the 1400 -- on both matte and glossy papers. I'll publish the complete formula later, but so far so good. It pains me a bit to move away from a 100% carbon approach, but I think the settling problems with the Eboni/Carbon-6 are major problems for large format users. (No problems with the desktop printers.) Frankly, the move to an HP based inkset allows me to use un- brightened paper, which I vastly prefer. So, while I won't be able to hit the 100% carbon target with this approach, the overall HP + non-OBA paper will actually be more stable over my lifetime due to the lack of those OBAs, which are by far the main source of tonal instability with either a 100% carbon or HP grey approach. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
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Re: [Digital BW] HP Z3100 Vivera Grey
2009-01-24 by pr_roark
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