Digital BW, The Print

Thanks, Greg, this is good information. I posted a reply from this other
supplier stating that, yes, you are correct, WJ1082 is indeed Eboni. So,
if I want to print BO in the 1400, then I don't need any other ink in
the other cartridges. I think someone on this mailing list mentioned
distilled water. I'll probably try this supplier's Claria replacements
first; at least I'll be able to refill. I've just asked them about the
archival characteristics of this Claria-replacement ink; the ink numbers
are WJ1136, WJ2094, WJ6137, WJ7049, WJ2095, and WJ6138.

Andrew


On 02/19/2009 06:44 AM, Greg wrote:
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>, Andrew Sharpe
> <asharpe@...> wrote:
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>>
>> I've asked him to verify that WJ1082 is indeed Eboni, but I have not yet
>> heard back. It is a little odd that they seem to discourage Eboni (if
>> that is what it is) in the 1400.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
> 
> Eboni is a MIS trade name to obfuscate the real origins, no one else
> calls it that and MIS will try to side step the question if you ask
> them, they will never flat out admit they are the same inks. Take my
> word for it or don't, it's up to you. Paul will not comment on this so
> as not to stress ties with MIS. I have no ties with MIS in fact they
> have pissed me off several times in the past so I only deal with them
> when I have no other choice, which is a couple steps above my status
> with Media Street (now some other company). MIS does not like people
> knowing who really makes there ink, that is why they hide the Image
> Specialists pages. I may be wrong, but I think they may be required to
> sell the IS inks to keep some of there deals working, which is why
> they hide the info. This is also why I prefer to buy from the IS part
> number, because I then know exactly what I will be receiving. MIS
> could change Eboni tomorrow and it may not be as good, but the WJ1082
> will be the same until they stop making it.
> 
> As far as the third party carts with Epson carts, I've read that you
> must use either all third party or all Epson. The reason I found is
> due to the chips, if the printer sees some real and some third party,
> it stops. Since I have not tried any of these most recent printers, I
> am not certain this is true, but it would not surprise me.
> 
> Since the pigment inks and dye inks traditionally do not mix well,
> then using Eboni (WJ1082) in a dye based printer along with the other
> dye based inks may not be a good idea. The inks will mix on the
> capping station and could produce a goo clogging the heads and
> clogging the ink pump. Again I have not tried this, so I am not sure.
> Paul may have mixed the two types of inks and may be able to give
> better information. But as far as I know, it is still required to
> flush dye based printers before switching them to pigment inks. Claria
> is the only unknown since I just bought my first Claria based printer,
> so I can't really comment on this either way. I probably will not mix
> any Claria with the pigment inks that I have find to out what happens,
> it's just something that I don't care to try.
> 
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