well could ya get some? Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote: > > I do not have that paper. > > Mark > http://www.stillrivereditions.com > > On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Clayton Jones wrote: > > > Hello Mark, > > > >> I have had my Epson 9900 for a few weeks now and was finally able to > >> do some tests to compare its ABW mode vs Piezotone selenium inks. > >> Bottom line, the Piezotones have much more depth to them. They look > >> 3D and the 9900 black and white prints do not. Color on the 9900 I > >> was able to tweak to match the Pieozone fairly close. All tests were > >> done on Hahnemuhle Photo Rag. > > > > Thanks for the report. Is there any chance you can do the same > > comparison on VFA? The reason I ask is that HPR was one of my top > > papers when I used Eboni-based ink sets, while VFA was good but > > didn't stand out. I kept some on hand only for testing. > > > > When my 2200 died the replacement warranty I had purchased with it > > delivered to me a new 2400. After acclimating to the new system I > > found that the combination of K3 inks and VFA produced far better > > results than K3/HPR, and even better than Eboni/HPR in some ways. > > The depth effect as you mention (among other things), was very rich > > compared to previous results. > > > > The result is that my entire paper lineup changed. I still have > > some HPR and I'm slowly trying to use it up, but it only works well > > with a certain few images (and even then it's just acceptable). My > > general impression is that K3 and HPR are simply not a good match, > > for whatever reason. Getting good results with it always seems > > like a struggle, where VFA just sings easily in tune. BTW, another > > favorite K3 paper for me is Innova's Soft Texture Art (STA). It's > > the best non-OBA paper for K3 I've found. Hawk Mtn's Merlin > > Natural is also a fine K3 paper, as is Museo Max - please don't get > > the impression that K3 is only good on one paper. > > > > Bottom line is don't judge the ink by testing on just one paper. > > It can make a big difference. PZ may still beat out K3 on VFA, but > > you won't know for sure until you test it. K3 is also superb on > > the Fiber Gloss type papers. > > > > Regards, > > Clayton > > > > > > Info on black and white digital printing at > > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm > > I-Trak 2.1 http://www.cjcom.net/itrak.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > > visiting this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > > to keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > > from the membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > > removed from the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > > group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" > > in the Files section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL > > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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[Digital BW] Re: 9900 ABW vs Piezotone inks
2009-04-06 by Tyler Boley
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