I am in this camp, there are always exceptions though. I dropped color neg as soon as I discovered positives, and took up cibachrome in a lame attempt to get them on paper. It's like a bound pages book as compared to digital books. Though my chrome prints are petty bad, they are a lasting statement - as are the old family contact prints from the old country. Many of the young digital photographers have discovered polaroid and cherish these photographs . They tape them on the wall or clothesline hang them. gar *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/7/2009 at 4:01 PM Tyler Boley wrote: >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, C D Tobie ><CDTobie@...> wrote: >.... >> For years photographers thought of the chrome (positive transparency, >> on a backlit light table) as the standard; and it was certainly >> unmatchable in any other format at the time, so saying "here is my >> glorious work, it will look lousy when you make photo prints of it, or >> send it to press" was a common photographer's viewpoint. >... > >> ...For others, its the final print on >> paper, but thats mostly the printmakers... > >As someone with feet in both the commercial photography world, and the >fine art photography world, I'd redefine those categories. >Commercial shooters, from large format ad work to 35mm Nat Geo work, >glorified the transparency, and were generally disappointed with it's >representation on paper and the compromises required to get it there. > >But in the fine art photography community I was exposed to, color or B&W, >you weren't done until you had a successfull print. From Eugene Smith to >Eggleston, Gibson to Sommer, the print is the photograph. It's not just a >printmaker concern. > >This is not to suggest that all artists should follow this path, or that >all fine art photographers have or should have, certainly there are many >fascinating options. >For me, from the beginning, I did not have a photograph until a print that >spoke was in physical existence. I was exposed to this by several masters >of photography early on, long before I was a "printmaker". >Tyler >http://www.custom-digital.com/ > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as >they are often being updated. > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to >unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same >page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep >them short. >- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. >Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the >membership without notice. >- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W >printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from >the membership. >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and >guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner >and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files >section: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND >MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO >YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR >EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF >PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE >OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN >ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE >OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) >UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) >STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT >YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE >PRINT YAHOO GROUP. >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Prints versus screen images.
2009-04-07 by Gary Weaver
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