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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Prints versus screen images.

2009-04-09 by Cdtobie

Gosh, I've been doing it as long as there gave been printers with two  
grays in them, on a wide range of media, some matted and framed, some  
not, and I've never seen a single one of my prints turn red, or any  
other color. Mayhaps you overstate the threat?

C. D. Tobie
Global Product Technology Mngr.
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor.com
CDTobie@...

On Apr 9, 2009, at 5:45 PM, "Jon Cone" <jon@...> wrote:

> No, using Epson inks to make B&W is the road to color shifted images  
> in a short time.  :)
>
> What I was referring to was looking at prints or looking at computer  
> images. The original discussion was about prints versus screen images.
>
> So the comparison was to listening to live music or a recording of  
> live music on an iPhone... a stretch I admit. even a tad  
> sarcastic...  The print is always what it is. It is the print. But  
> if we begin to look at images on displays - they will end up one day  
> on iPhones. A display is what it is - a moving target.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen  
> Kobrin" <kobrins@...> wrote:
>>
>> Given what Mozart sounds like over an iPhone speaker that is a  
>> pretty  harsh judgment.  Are you saying that anyone who does not  
>> use Cone (or other carbon) inks can't be serious about making B&W  
>> prints?  Is  Epson's ABW mode really the road to perdition and ruin?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Cone"  
>> <jon@> wrote:
>>>
>>> At the risk of being accused of sarcasm, what about listening to a  
>>> string orchestra in a concert hall or listening to a recording of  
>>> a string orchestra in a concert hall but through the tiny internal  
>>> speakers of an iPhone using the concert hall ambient settings of  
>>> its iPod app?
>>>
>>> Why is this group losing its focus on what makes black & white  
>>> photography so extraordinary?  The Print.
>>>
>>> Has it been that long for so many that the inherent beauty of an  
>>> exquisitely crafted silver or carbon print is now lost to memory?  
>>> Or is it because the ability to craft one is becoming a lost art  
>>> as so many navigate to printing B&W with color inks on Canon,  
>>> Epson, HP and Lexmark printers?
>>>
>>>
>>> Jon Cone
>>> InkjetMall.com
>>>
>>
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