In theory one could. Keeping the different pigments in even suspension in the same cartridge could be a challenge, enough of a challenge that Paul R. has not chosen to develop such inks, as I understand it. But, yes, it could be done. C. D. Tobie Global Product Technology Mngr. Digital Imaging & Home Theater Datacolor.com CDTobie@... On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:28 PM, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote: > So could one create a Hextone inkset made of diluted Vivera grays > and put it in a Z3100 for super PK output? That's what I've been > thinking about for awhile, and possibly using the additonal channels > for gloss enhancer and split toning hues like red and blue and > yellow. Putting thermal inks like that in a Piezzo printer sounds a > little scary. > > What does one dilute Vivera Gray with? > > john > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard > Smallfield <r.smallfield@...> wrote: >> >> Hi Ernst, >> I recalled the HP neutral grey too ... why on earth Epson hasn't >> adopted this approach is very hard to fathom. >> >> I've compared a QTR with an ABW print today and there is no >> comparison re the amount of coloured ink - but I've only had my >> 3800 a few days, and don't know yet if it's possible to improve the >> ABW performance vis a vis reducing coloured ink. >> >> In the meantime I think I'll stick to QTR. >> Richard >> >> At 06:42 p.m. Saturday 8/08/2009, you wrote: >>> HP Z models + the B9180 etc desktop printers have a neutral grey ink >>> range that has a high resistance to fading. Paul Roark has used >>> some of >>> the Vivera inks, diluted and straight, in Epson models and there >>> are no >>> clogs as I understand it. But only with QTR you will be able to >>> change >>> the media presets, not with the Epson driver. The Epson driver will >>> control what will be composite grey and what mixed of grey inks, >>> both in >>> ABW and color mode. >> >> ____________ >> http://www.richardsmallfield.com >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” in > the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE “OWNE > R” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DA > MAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE L > OSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH D > AMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIG > ITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTER > ATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF > ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) AN > Y OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by Cdtobie
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