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Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments

2009-08-09 by Cdtobie

In theory one could. Keeping the different pigments in even suspension  
in the same cartridge could be a challenge, enough of a challenge that  
Paul R. has not chosen to develop such inks, as I understand it. But,  
yes, it could be done.

C. D. Tobie
Global Product Technology Mngr.
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor.com
CDTobie@...

On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:28 PM, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote:

> So  could one create a Hextone inkset made of diluted Vivera grays  
> and put it in a Z3100 for super PK output? That's what I've been  
> thinking about for awhile, and possibly using the additonal channels  
> for gloss enhancer and split toning hues like red and blue and  
> yellow. Putting thermal inks like that in a Piezzo printer sounds a  
> little scary.
>
> What does one dilute Vivera Gray with?
>
> john
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard  
> Smallfield <r.smallfield@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ernst,
>> I recalled the HP neutral grey too ... why on earth Epson hasn't  
>> adopted this approach is very hard to fathom.
>>
>> I've compared a QTR with an ABW print today and there is no  
>> comparison re the amount of coloured ink  - but I've only had my  
>> 3800 a few days, and don't know yet if it's possible to improve the  
>> ABW performance vis a vis reducing coloured ink.
>>
>> In the meantime I think I'll stick to QTR.
>> Richard
>>
>> At 06:42 p.m. Saturday 8/08/2009, you wrote:
>>> HP Z models + the B9180 etc desktop printers have a neutral grey ink
>>> range that has a high resistance to fading. Paul Roark has used  
>>> some of
>>> the Vivera inks, diluted and straight, in Epson models and there  
>>> are no
>>> clogs as I understand it. But only with QTR you will be able to  
>>> change
>>> the media presets, not with the Epson driver. The Epson driver will
>>> control what will be composite grey and what mixed of grey inks,  
>>> both in
>>> ABW and color mode.
>>
>> ____________
>> http://www.richardsmallfield.com
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