Digital BW, The Print

Ernst,

Well actually Studio Print already supports the Z3200 series in cymk and rgb, and it is ready to go for partitioning, ink limiting, etc.  I'm convinced that isn't the problem. The dilution of the inks theoretically would work if the base is right, also to provide 3 more grays. 

If I had money t throw around,  which I definitely don't now in this economy, I'd do it in a 24" machine just to test the idea. However, my results with all the permutations of Piezo K7 on matt papers does not make me want to rush into doing this kind of work primarily on baryta papers, though it would be fun as an alternative. And as you say  with good papers now on the Z now they are pretty damn good, not the best thing on earth in the higher values, but very good.


john






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla <edinkla@...> wrote:
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> john dean schreef:
> > So  could one create a Hextone inkset made of diluted Vivera grays and put it in a Z3100 for super PK output? That's what I've been thinking about for awhile, and possibly using the additonal channels for gloss enhancer and split toning hues like red and blue and yellow. Putting thermal inks like that in a Piezzo printer sounds a little scary.
> > 
> > What does one dilute Vivera Gray with?
> > 
> > john
> 
> John, It would be nice. Perfect automatic head maintenance. Heads that 
> can be replaced at an affordable price when needed.
> But what driver will do the partitioning, linearisation, color toning 
> and in the end the printing?
> It is very unlikely that curves in PS and the HP driver (in Paul Roark's 
> style) will deliver any quality improvement.
> Even with a RIP like the Wasatch SoftRip like I used for a 9000 quad you 
> still have no control on the 3 or 4 K inks separately, it still is a 
> black box to the user. QTR doesn't have HP printer support and even 
> GutenPrint is way behind with its Designjet drivers.
> 
> The B9180, Z3100 and Z3200 do a very good job in B&W printing, right out 
> of the box. Better in my opinion than the Epson and Canon out of the box 
> solutions. Beyond that you have to look for Epson hardware, QTR and 
> K6-7-8 solutions with or without HP inks. That is the result of the 
> front runner's role of Epson in the past,  the influence this list had 
> and the R&D efforts of maybe 10 people in the last 10 years  to get 
> better digital B&W printing. It will be difficult to repeat that again 
> for the other printer brands. As I understand it also will be difficult 
> for the x900 Epson printers.  If I recall it correctly the Bowhaus shop 
> tried something for the Canons but I have not seen any sign of it in 
> practice. Jon Cone and Canons is another vague memory.
> 
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