>>My 7900 does have problems with darks, some images have more details on screen than on prints and I hoped monochrome inks would improve it, but no luck. May be QTR curves will improve it? to get 7900 ABW soft proofing (monitor vs print) matching you need to generate a QTR Create ICC profile for each paper you use and use that to soft proof and to print from gamma 2.2 images. Also I would use the neutral rather than dark setting in ABW driver as this gives better darks. Also your monitor should be profiled and not too bright (max 80 cd/m2) and your b&w prints should be viewed under a bright light. I don't think you will improve darks with QTR curves - the ABW driver is pretty good with nice dithering, better to focus on getting that working properly. Mike 2009/9/9 flashinet <flashinet@...> > > > I'm back to report my first experience with monochrome printing. > I've bought brand new Epson 1400 from OfficeMax for $200 and MIS UT14 inks. > Today I had finally got inks and here the fun started. > > Early in the day I've prepared some prints on my Epson 7900 on Hahnemuhle > Photo Rag printed with ABW driver and QTR created profiles. > > When I've got 1400 working I've printed the gray wedge, measured it after > drying and made a profile. The I've printer wedge using profile and compared > it to 7900 printed wedge. I can't display Excel graph here but I'll try to > give the numbers, it's luminosity > Epson Epson > 1440 7900 > > 96.67 96.88 > 94.3 95.64 > 92.06 94.2 > 89.43 92 > 87.24 90.82 > 84.94 89.2 > 82.01 87.26 > 79.26 85.9 > 76.65 84.25 > 73.55 82.34 > 70.27 80.58 > 68.07 79.14 > 65.43 76.9 > 63.34 75.55 > 61.61 73.95 > 59.45 71.82 > 57.22 70.41 > 55.66 68.7 > 53.68 66.89 > 51.33 65.16 > 49.63 63.42 > 47.56 61.34 > 46.02 59.76 > 44.51 58.04 > 42.26 55.87 > 40.67 54.37 > 39.31 52.58 > 37.18 50.79 > 35.78 48.9 > 34.82 47.03 > 33.55 44.81 > 33.19 43.26 > 32.75 41.26 > 31.64 39.26 > 31.39 37.66 > 30.82 35.62 > 29.79 33.82 > 29.53 31.95 > 29.18 30.25 > 28.17 28.4 > 27.91 26.97 > 27.49 25.4 > 26.63 23.77 > 26.53 22.5 > 26.01 21.51 > 25.14 20.52 > 24.57 19.28 > 23.92 18.9 > 22.79 18.35 > 22.32 17.9 > 16.34 17.2 > > AS you see 7900 has much better linearity. > > Then I've printed out 4 images on 1400 to compare with prints from 7900. > When I compared prints (dark, light and mid-tone images) I didn't see them > different enough to speak about. Pretty much the same. Which is not a bad > thing for $200 printer to give quality on a par with $4000 printer. > > My 7900 does have problems with darks, some images have more details > on screen than on prints and I hoped monochrome inks would improve it, but > no luck. May be QTR curves will improve it? > Jacob Mann > > website: http://www.photo3dart.com > blog: http://photo3dart.com/wordpress > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>, > "flashinet" <flashinet@...> wrote: > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > I'm fine art photographer working mainly with black and white. I print my > own photographs on Epson 7900 using ABW driver and like the results, I also > exhibit my prints. > > Still I'm reading about dedicated B&W printers and monochrome inks like > Paleography or MIS and I'm worried that I'm missing something in quality . > > I've made some research and figured that I can give it a try by buying > Epson 1400 printer and UT14 inks. > > > > But the question is: Is it worth it? Is quality going to be so much > better so it's worth all this money and trouble? > > > > Thanks you very much, > > Jacob Mann > > > > website: http://www.photo3dart.com > > blog: http://photo3dart.com/wordpress > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Dedicatd B&W printer - is it worth it?
2009-09-09 by Michael King
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