Digital BW, The Print

Eric,

you are right. I'm still not used to the difference between negative processing and positive one.

We used to burn shadows when we had dark spots on the negative and we covered all picture leaving open the dark spots to allow more light there. In Photoshop we dodge shadows because it's positive process like slide. I actually never used this tool.

Sure any exposure manipulation increases noise which brings us back to bracketing. But if you do it in Lightroom (especially in new beta version which is so good in noise reduction and sharpening) the penalty is not so bad.

I've printed size 30"x40" from a picture taken with ISO 800 and with exposure correction 1 stop and the quality (noise and sharpness) is pretty good.

Jacob Mann
http://www.photo3dart.com

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> Jacob, You said, "And if you burn dark shadows they will have a lot of noise
> and not enough details." You do mean dodge here right? 
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> I would also caution user that use the luminance tool in Lightroom to darken
> a color, specifically skies, that an increase in noise can be a problem. I
> find that I have just one filter with me when I shoot digital; a polarizer.
> The fill light to open shadows is the biggest culprit to un wanted noise. 
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> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: photos by Jean-Michel Berts
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> Thank you Tony. 
> I do only digital. My current camera is Nikon D700 with Nikon 17-35mm lens.
> I use bracketing shooting 3 times with 1 stop difference in exposure using
> evaluative metering. I shoot in uncompressed raw.
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> I don't do any dodging and burning. If I get blown highlights or dark
> shadows I will try to save the image first in Lightroom using 'recovery'
> slider to save highlights and 'fill light' and 'blacks' to open shadows. I
> may also use brush for local changes.
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> If it's still not enough I will take my bracketing shots to Photoshop and
> join them as layers in one image using layer masks. This way I can use
> highlights from underexposed image and shadows from overexposed image.
> It gives much better quality than dodging and burning because if highlights
> are blown there is just no information captured and dodging will give you
> just gray area. And if you burn dark shadows they will have a lot of noise
> and not enough details.
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> Tony, at this point there is no question you can get beautiful images with
> digital camera, just make sure you have a good camera and lens and doing all
> technical stuff right: exposure, focusing, ISO.
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> One more advise: shoot in color - not in black and white. Then in Lightroom
> after converting to b&w you can use color sliders to adjust tones of
> different colors. This is very powerful tool, you can make local changes
> without selections. And this tool has incredible range because it works on
> raw data. It makes it also unnecessary to use filters while shooting - you
> can always darken the sky with blue slider (if it has enough blue in it) or
> lighten the leaves with 'green' slider. 
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> So Tony, there are no secrets to good digital pictures, just hard work, we
> have to learn to use strong points of digital and to find our way around
> weak points, develop a workflow specific to our needs.
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> I hope this helps. If you have more questions please contact me either on
> the group or directly.
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> Jacob Mann
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