My point Eric, was that Jacob is doing digital photography. It's easy to see how a photographer with little or no experience in a wet darkroom can misunderstand terminology that was coined for that process. Fortunately, the designers at Adobe have seen the potential for confusion and they've avoided using those terms in Lightroom, opting for words that are specific to the digital process or identical in both processes. As for the retirement of old terms, we'll just have to agree to disagree. New technology deserves its own terminology, especially in a area like photography, where the older methods are still very much in use. All best, Dave http://davereichertphoto.com/ On Nov 22, 2009, at 11:41 AM, E.Neilsen wrote: > Dave, Digital photography is just going to have to learn how to deal > with > hold over terms. How does unsharpmask work? That's right it makes > things > sharper. Why use that term? It comes from the darkroom workflow. > Dodge is > "to keep from hitting" so if you look at it as density, and building > density > gets your numbers going towards 0, which is the dmin or black, it > still > makes sense. Black is NOT a higher number but a lower number in RGB > and that > is the most commonly used numbers by photographers. However black > can be 100 > with white 0. What scale or representation of a color value are you > going to > use? Burn = blackened, soot, etc. However burn thing well like wood > and wood > turns white ash : ) > > In Lightroom, while you are looking at the image represented as a > positive, > you are still working on your DNG/RAW file (for the most part as you > can > still work on JPEGs too). The image on your screen is what your > image would > look like after the wet process. > > If you want to really mess with an industry already messed up from > processing to capture and the rest, start dropping terms that are > established photographic terms and lose context to it all. Big > mistake. > > What is a mask? Perhaps, As I started teaching my platinum students, > it is > nothing more than a layer; your set of instructions for a particular > effect. > Each new layer, grade 00 to grade 5 burn or dodge is your layer set. > > Lightening an area is NOT only done with exposure. It is done with > black > point, contrast, brightness, fill and exposure. These are all done in > combination. If you chose to allow Adobe to set your values, that is > OK. It > works many times. The listings of profile in LR is already a slipper > slope > in many respects. > > Expecting the old terms to be retired is a bad idea. > > > Eric Neilsen > Eric Neilsen Photography > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 > Dallas, TX 75226 > > www.ericneilsenphotography.com > skype me with ejprinter > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: photos by Jean-Michel Berts
2009-11-22 by Dave
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