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RE: [Digital BW] Maximum Usable Black vs. Dmax - What's the Big Deal?

2009-12-01 by E.Neilsen

Terry, Forgive me if I restate something here, but the viewing light is
going to make a difference to the absolute look of the image and that is
something that may not be under your control throughout the life of the
print. Measuring and looking might start to get conflicting inner thoughts
going. Do you have a measure light source to view your images under?  The
digital standard 5000K light boxes can assist one in getting a base line for
some printing and viewing standards, but there is also the reality of home
light situations and again personal preference. I go by the thinking that
give you print as much black as the substrate can handle without bleed, and
maintain a good slope your images should look good in nearly any reasonable
light.    You can even set your own standard if you tell buyers, if that is
your aim, that your images look best at this amount and type of
illumination. If the Terry standard is within reason of normal lighting,
that should not be a problem. The plotting and control will then give you
the means to make the Terry look. It sounds like you have the tools to make
it happen.  

 

Eric Neilsen

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

 

www.ericneilsenphotography.com

skype me with ejprinter

 

  _____  

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:14 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Maximum Usable Black vs. Dmax - What's the Big
Deal?

 

  

Eric,

I'm using an X-Rite 810. I just created two QTR profiles with PK ink at 60%
& Black Boost at 70% and another profile at 60% again and Black Boost at
90%. No excessive ink and the steps look "uniform" in both cases due to
"shaping the curve" with a Gamma of 2.6.

Visually the 21st Step after of the 70% & 90% black look the same but
measure 2.24 & 2.40. (As expected)

Will it make a difference in an actual print?...will need to try some
prints.

Terry

--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E.Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> If you're building density all the way up to 100% that is something I
> haven't done either. However, one issue with Epson printers/drivers is
that
> they do tend to block up. Perhaps they have lowered the density in this
set.
> Shilesh is asking the right question here. 
> 
> 
> 
> What type of densitometer are you using? 
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Neilsen
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 
> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> 
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 
> 
> 
> www.ericneilsenphotography.com
> 
> skype me with ejprinter
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> shileshjani
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:55 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Maximum Usable Black vs. Dmax - What's the Big
> Deal?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Terry,
> 
> Your readings that 100% patch has highest measured density is unusual. I
> don't have any experience with your inkset, so that may be it. Another
quick
> check worth considering. Are you printing the QTR calibration chart at
100%
> ink limits?
> 
> Shilesh
> 
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> 
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