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Re: New printer ?

2009-12-17 by pr_roark

I suspect the Epson US website is not correct.  In the UK and Australia, the Epson web sites still have info saying the R1900 head uses 1.5 pl drops.  I doubt the US 1900 would be different.  But, I've never actually used a 1900.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roger" <rsmith02@...> wrote:
>
> Paul, there was some discussion on Photo.net about Epson stating the US version R1900 was not a 1.5pl printer as the R1800.  It appears to be a 3.0pl machine:
> 
> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=TiD&oid=63073901&category=Products
> 
> I have no idea if this matters for anything.
> Roger
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" <paul.roark@> wrote:
> >
> > "JohnB" <jrb1934@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ... the new printer I think I want is the Epson 2880.
> > > 
> > > ... black & white photos and also color. Probably half and half. 
> > 
> > > ... mostly Matte and Satin finishes. 
> > 
> > I think what most people call "satin" is a paper that requires a photo black ink.  So, the ease of or need for black ink switching may be an issue.
> > 
> >  
> > > ... how good is the B & W printing?
> > 
> > Most of the comments seem to be positive.  
> > 
> > I think from an ultimate B&W perspective -- including smoothness, number of gray inks, lack of color artifacts and possibly other issues -- the dedicated B&W approaches might still have some advantages.  It's a trade of.
> > 
> > > Will they have a color tint (green?)or any other color?
> > 
> > They will have color inks in them.  You can print with only the gray inks with QTR, but the tone is not very pleasing without color to tone the image.  The "Advanced B&W" uses a fair amount of color.  You can cut this down with QTR.  
> > 
> > With a magnifier, you'll see color dots in the highlights.  
> > 
> > There will be metamerism to some degree.  
> > 
> > Profiling is harder with high gamut inks and toners -- monotone inksets are the easiest to profile and keep from having color artifacts.
> > 
> > With respect to image tone shifting over time due to differential fade, the Epson and HP inksets are quite good according to my reading of the Aardenburg test results.  While the images will ultimately show tone change due to the colors fading faster than the carbon pigments, the Aardenburg tests show the Epson OEM inks to be very well balanced, at least on some papers.  The 100% carbon is more stable, but it'll take a long time before you'd see any difference.  
> > 
> > To be sure the combination of ink and paper your using or considering is stable, check the Aardenburg tests.  
> > 
> > See http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/acceleratedagingtests.html 
> > 
> >  
> > > ... Epson 1900 ...
> > 
> > The MIS 3MK approach makes it an extremely inexpensive and lightfast 100% carbon printer.  While the 1.5 picoliter drop of the 1900 makes very good black only prints, some will notice more graininess in smooth areas like plain gray skies than an inkset with dilute grays in it.  
> > 
> > I'm not sure if black only with the OEM or full color set works well in the 1900.  It did not in my 1800.  In my 1400 it's quite good, but still not what I'd want for fine art.
> > 
> >  
> > > Also I want a CISS unit for this printer.
> > 
> > I've had 3 Superjet units work well.  The last one required the plastic pins that hold on the chip to be shaved down, but that was easy to do.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
>

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