Digital BW, The Print

Hi Frank, Yes I mean keep the triangles, the set value points, away from
what looks like your new 0 and new 255. Once you can verify your output
values you can start to come a little closer, but always maintain a place
for data at the top and the bottom, unless you wish to reinterpret your
scene. To me, scanning is the first step in an interpretation of your image.
If you now wish to change it you can, but unlike an initial exposure under
the enlarger, the new exposure might require quite a bit more effort; a bit
like digging the neg out of storage again. You may want to bring along a
laptop if you have one, to start working on a file after completion of a
scan to check your work while the rental unit is scanning your next image. 

 

Eric Neilsen

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

 

www.ericneilsenphotography.com

skype me with ejprinter

 

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frankg_photo
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:21 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Scanning B&W

 

  

Yes, it's an hourly rental.And yes, all time is charged including writing
the files (to cd).

"-120 being the actual off setting or true 0" - I wonder if anyone with an
Imacon (848) and Flexcolor 4.6 can verify this?

"a little above and below clipping points dmax and dmin" - do you mean to
keep the triangles a little off the edge of the histogram ?

Is there a place to set the gamma/midpoints other than the middle triangle
of the histogram ?

Frank

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eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E.Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> Frank, I am assuming this is an hourly rental or a day structure; 1/2 or
> full day. Besides the scanning time, are you also being charged to write
> your files to your own media? or are you hooking up your own external
drive?
> Did you give your self some test files to play with at various setting
> keeping the scanned area at the same ppi? This allows you to run a few
sets
> of tests to see what those scan software setting are doing to your images.

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> I remember it (-120) being the actual off setting or true 0. I typically
> give my self a little above and below clipping points dmax and dmin, and
> highly recommend it on a rented scanner to avoid clipping. See what they
> have defaults set to but you don't want to waste time rescanning only
> because you clipped your detail some place. 
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Neilsen
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 
> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> 
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 
> 
> 
> www.ericneilsenphotography.com
> 
> skype me with ejprinter
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
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> From: DigitalBlackandWhit
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eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit
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> frankg_photo
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:18 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhit
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eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Scanning B
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> 
> We live and learn.
> I rented time and the scans are ok, but not great.
> I'll do better next time now that I'm more familiar with the interface and
> will be less panicked about maximizing my rental time at the lab. I could
> use a little more clarification from users please:
> 
> Re: USM at -120
> I had the usm palette boxes all set to 0 (one of the usm settings, I
forget
> which, kept defaulting to 1) and indeed the grain is pronounced in some
> negs.
> Is -120 a general consensus done by empirical testing, or a rcommendation
by
> flexcolor ?
> 
> Using photokit after - do you change mode to rgb> select Capture
sharpeer>35
> fast negative (as appropriate) > medium edge sharpen (as appropriate ?
> 
> AF icon (auto focus?) - there is a little AF icon/button - should this be
> 'dark' or 'light/faded' ? Some scans appear a tad soft?
> 
> Gamma - is there a place to set this to 2.2 ? 
> 
> I used the levels histogram, and found that the A (auto) worked well to
> bring the white and black points to the edges of the histogram. I could
> manually change them as well as the midpoint. And I could also change the
> midtones with Gradations/curves. But...my scans are still mostly too light
> and flat.
> 
> I selected Greyscale 16 bit B&W negative. I figured that the film grain
> would overide a bit of noise and the benefit of rgb. The files were 100mb
> anyway as GS.
> 
> What is the maximum Optical (non interpolated) res of the Imacon (848) - I
> used 6300ppi.
> 
> Unfortunately there was no-one to train me just a young person that
clearly
> didn't know the answers to any of this.
> 
> Thanks for any further clarification.
> Frank
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
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> eThePrint@yahoogrou <mailto:eThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, Paul Kohl
<pkohl@> wrote:
> >
> > I use an Imacon Flextight regularly and have done tests on black and 
> > white negative scanning. My results are that scanning as a greyscale 
> > positive gets me the most efficient and tonally comprehensive scans, 
> > as another poster recommended. One important thing is to set the 
> > Texture/Unsharp masking sharpening setting to -120 or else the 
> > software will sharpen the image. This sharpening will increase grain 
> > presence in the image.
> > I sharpen later in PS using the Photokit sharpened plug-in.
> > The Imacon is a great machine.
> > Good luck with it.
> > Paul
> >
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