Digital BW, The Print

You are ignoring what I think is the best of these fiber gloss papers,  Hahnemuhle Photorag Baryta. It is completely oba free and rich tonally with very good resolution and excellent dmax. With my Z3100 it has the least gloss issues of them all so far. Two others that are  very good are The type 5 Cone paper that I'm just starting to test now and it looks very nice .., and Crane Silver Rag that was the original form of this kind of media. All are oba free natural sheets and the closest thing to analogue silver prints overall. They work with all the oem inks. If  you still have some uneven gloss issues with Epson inks, then two very light coats of Premiere Art or similar spray will take care of it.

john




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "KentB" <philip@...> wrote:
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> I can respond about the Canson.  I have printed on this paper, the Epson Exhibition Fibre and the Ilford.
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> Whitest base is the Epson, the Canson is slightly warmer and the Ilford is warmest.  Surface is similar.  Epson is smoothest, Canson similar to Epson...Ilford has a slight bit of tooth.  Other than the slight surface differences and warmth differences, the finished prints are more or less equivalent.
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> There are a couple things that I personally do not like about all of the F type papers.  They are all so bright that if the intention is to put under a matt for framing, there is no matt board that looks great with any of them unless the matt overlaps the image.  If you present the prints auto matted with a large paper border (not under an overmatt) they look great.
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> None of these papers are without some gloss differential, but in general they are all very nice papers with high dmax.
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> While I have spent considerable time testing and printing the Ftype papers, I keep coming back to matte papers...they just have that breathing quality..despite the lower dmax.  At the end of the day, the F type papers have a plastic sort of quality that is so mechanical looking...it is off putting to my eye.
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> If sharpness, brilliance and high dmax is the goal, the f types all succeed. If the goal is an lovely object, a print with depth and luminosity....I have a very subjective notion that the best matte papers are more beautiful. The matte papers also look great matted with overmatts....there is no obvious difference in the paper base color.  
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> I went to a lovely Roy Harrington exhibition a few months back.   Roy had printed on one of the f type papers.  To my surprise, Roy trimmed and dry mounted the whole show!  He did so because he also objected to the harsh difference in whites between the f type papers and the matt boards.  His prints looked well finished this way ...but to my way of thinking...dry mounting is a pain in the neck...I am spoiled by having a finished print once the print emerges from the printer... Dry mounting is considered less archival from a museum perspective. 
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> Roy's prints were actually nearly impossible to distinquish from Gelatin Silver once they were trimmed and dry mounted and under glass.  If the goal is the look of Gelatin Silver, these F type surely are successful.
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> However to my eye...the dmax differences between the f type and matte papers becomes less significant when put under glass.  
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> Those are some of my subjective opinions on the subject.  
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> Phil    
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "andre1moreau" <andre1moreau@> wrote:
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> > I too would have like to read about user experiences about the Canson Infinity paper but it somehow turn into a language thing, so if you're interested in that here's some more: 
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> > http://tinyurl.com/yazadef
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> > Getting back to Terry's original post, I too would be interested in reading about b&w printing experience with Canson Baryta Photographique. About the only review I've seen about this paper is that of MR at Luminous-Landscape. However, MR does mostly color printing.
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> > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/printers/tale.shtml
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> > Cheers,
> > Andre
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