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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Cooled C6 on matte and warmed HP PK C6 on glossy (with DMax 2.86)

2010-02-06 by Michael King

>>On the other hand, I note that Mike has yet another approach and is
cutting back on the medium density (50% - 33%) inks in favor of a low
density one.

So just to be clear that is for matte where the 50% and 30% HPPK inks are
cool and difficult to warm up.
So I use 100%, 18% Eboni,  + 100%, 20%,10%,5% HPPK. Where the 18% Eboni is
used to warm up the 3/4 tones.
Note that 100% HPPK = 50% Eboni in density.

But for Glossy I use HPPK 100, 50, 20, 10, 5% + GO. But HPPK shadows are
very susceptible to GO %.
More than 10% GO in the shadows and the dmax reduces. Too much GO and you
can see the ink patches have a white haze.
I use 5% GO from dmax to 50% density and then increase it to about 75% GO at
paper white.

Mike




On 6 February 2010 07:04, horstenj <j.h.j.h@...> wrote:

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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "santonov2you" <drumscanner@...> wrote:
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> > Hi all!
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> > Finally I fixed my old 2200 and put there mix of C6 diluted HP PK inks
> > and couple carbon inks from MIS that are compatible with glossy paper.
> > Idea was to warm up black tones a little bit, I think pure HP PK is too
> > cold in black. Inks positions are:
> >
> > K - HP PK 100%
> > LK - HP PK 33%
> > C - MIS UT7 C
> > M - HP PK 16%
> > LC - MIS UT7 LC
> > LM - HP PK 8%
> > Y - MIS Glop
> >
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> Hi Sergei,
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> I'm collecting all the stuff I need to get going on warmed HPPK inks so
> I've no results yet. I am very interested in the effect of the two warm
> toners. Do you feel you really need them?
>
> My intuition would be to go for 5 HPPK (100% - 50% - 25% - 12% - 6%) and
> only one warm toner (as Paul suggested earlier, a slightly diluted LK). That
> would allow for a strategy mith multiple overlaping HPPK curves, much like
> the Cone curves do, reducing artifacts in the curve transitions.
>
> Did you try what happens if you use just one ot the two warm toners?
>
> On the other hand, I note that Mike has yet another approach and is cutting
> back on the medium density (50% - 33%) inks in favor of a low density one.
> Interesting....
>
> Joost
>
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