Digital BW, The Print

tboleyyh schreef:
> right, Classic Velour... That was the Luminos version of the same, 
> also Media Street Royal Plush? Don't remember them all, but all were 
> rebranded big H papers. In fact, at first they did not sell under 
> their own name... One of the turning points in inkjet development was
>  when Wilhelm came out with a rating of 75 yrs (if I recall) for
> Media Street Generations pigment ink on Royal Plush. Put all the
> previous ratings to shame, and Epson later came out with Ultrachrome
> pigment. Ernst probably remembers all that too. Damn we're old. Tyler
> 
To get some experience I bought an Epson 3000 when the 9000 was
announced. The 9000 started with its original dye inks soon replaced
with Lyson Fotonic dye that was replaced by Van Son dye which wasn't
worse or better than Lyson's.. Both the fading of the dye inks and the
Hahnem\ufffdhle coating that got yellow/brown was experienced in that period.
It was only a short period we used Lyson's rebranded HM papers. We knew
Hahnem\ufffdhle's agent from silkscreen printing days. Lyson started to tell
tales about an extra coating their papers had for the inks they used, HM
told otherwise. In the 3000 I tried the Staedtler's pigment inks but the
gamut was horrible. This was all before Wilhelm gave the bad numbers for
Lyson and the nice ones for Mediastreet Generations (I don't think it
would last long in today's tests either). I think a period of two years
before we settled on Generations.  Epson's Archival pigment
wasn't a good alternative, fading numbers excellent but gamut worse than
Generations. Ultrachrome was about equal in gamut. But that was later.
That episode made us much older. We were the Guinea pigs of the pi\ufffdzo
period, the Iris guys were the real pioneers in the15 years before 2000.

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Met vriendelijke groeten,   Ernst


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