Digital BW, The Print

Very interesting.

Walker, could this approach be undertaken using ICC profiling tools, say a
Colormunki?

Terry.


On 13/03/10 11:14 AM, "Walker Blackwell" <forums@...> wrote:

> I would also note that for anyone using a rip (say colorburst) and not
> using Epson's default screening (Epson's default screening will add
> color ink overlay into the netrual to compensate for the brown/green K
> ink that Epson sells) you can buy 4 selenium inks from Jon Cone to
> replace your PK MK LK LLK. Then, when you build your custom CMYK
> profile, the setup will use more pure K ink when printing neutrals in
> color images. This cuts matamerism way down and generally gives you a
> superior profile for printing neutral images with small areas of full
> color (one of the hardest printing procedures, and something today's
> profilers still can't handle very well with mixed Ks like Epson). The
> 3800/3880 (with it's 6 droplet sizes) are uniquelly up to this task.
> Also, this method will give you a more stable (neutral) starting point
> for building QuadtoneRIP profiles for your color inks.
> 
> This really only works best with the newest head tech starting on the
> 3800/4880/3880/9880
> 
> I tried this on the 9600 back in the day, but it was touch and go. I
> think Epson developed the brown K ink originally because they were
> limited in nozzles. The only way to get a line/dot-free BW print was
> to mix brown/green K ink with other colors to up the amount of nozzles
> needed to make a neutral print with "high enough" physical resolution.
> I could get a semi-satisfactory neutral K print from the 9600 using
> 2880dpi and Smooth Diffusion dither form Studioprint. But this was
> about it. They probably still do this to make it harder for others to
> replicate their ink overlays, but that is just my cynicism bubbling up.
> 
> Walker
> 
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