Digital BW, The Print

At the gallery, digital copies of art printed onto what look like glazed tiles are selling very well.  I think a carbon on tile medium might be very interesting.

Is anyone printing on tiles? 

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Yes Paul we do that here but that is typically a sublimation process..

jimbo

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:42 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Printing on Tiles


    
  At the gallery, digital copies of art printed onto what look like glazed tiles are selling very well. I think a carbon on tile medium might be very interesting.

  Is anyone printing on tiles? 

  Paul
  www.PaulRoark.com 



  

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Paul,

Whilst strictly-speaking 'tis not printing *on* tiles, I'm playing with making pigment inkjet prints and then transferring the images to various substrates including damp plaster, polished metal and various other white building materials including tile.  The methods and materials are mostly those being explored by Dorothy Simpson Krause, Karin Schminke and Bonny Lhotka.  All can be found by a simple Google search.

I'm especially pleased with some things which are happening in transferring all-carbon (Eboni-6 inkset) images to various kitchen counter-top and floor-covering materials.  DIY suppliers such as Home Depot have many such items available in singles or small multiples.

This is satisfying my unfulfilled Polaroid-transfer appetites.  The E6 inks are so inexpensive no thought need be given to the wallet.

Will Clark

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> Is anyone printing on tiles? 
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
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"Will" <willclark.clark@...> wrote:

 
> ... making pigment inkjet prints and then transferring the images to various substrates including damp plaster, polished metal and various other white building materials including tile.  The methods and materials are mostly those being explored by Dorothy Simpson Krause, Karin Schminke and Bonny Lhotka.  All can be found by a simple Google search.

Among other variables, there seem to be 2 general approaches -- decals and transfers.  One demonstrator noted that transfers are always less than perfect.  Thus if one wanted a perfect image, an orignal print is needed.  

The decal method, as best I can tell, does use an original image.

See http://www.lazertran.com/products/lazertran_products_inkjet.htm 

This material is said by them to be able to handle matte inks.  

(Preparing the substrate and finishing appear to make this printed medium a lot more work than paper.  But what I see in the gallery is a new medium that looks impressive and is selling very well.  So, it might be worth exploring.)


 
> I'm especially pleased with some things which are happening in transferring all-carbon (Eboni-6 inkset) images to various kitchen counter-top and floor-covering materials.

Special materials are needed to make things able to take heat.  polycrylic sealant is apparently better than a polyurethane.  I think the 100% carbon is going to be more stable.

This line of products looks very interesting:

http://www.deltacreative.com/pcid/137/Default.aspx

I'm thinking for highest dynamic range, a very white tile with a glass like finsish.

One thing that is said to help with the www.lazertran.com/products is to hold down the ink limits and wetness.  

I'm probably going to move to an Eb6/Carb6 setup in the 1400 that is aimed at making things easier and will move the inks up in density scale.  

See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Easy_Mixing.pdf
(I didn't intend to publish this yet, but here is a rough draft of the Easy Mixing C6 (lowest cost -- materials and labor -- efort.)

The 3-MK approach may put the most carbon down per volume water, but I want more smoothness, so this setup ought to get me a flexible approach. 

 
> This is satisfying my unfulfilled Polaroid-transfer appetites.  The E6 inks are so inexpensive no thought need be given to the wallet.

As usual, the "paper" may be where the cost is. 

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

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> > Is anyone printing on tiles? 
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> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
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Paul, you might try looking at the site. 
 

http://www.lhotka.com/bonny/Home.html

She does different type transfers to several different materials.

Vinny 
www.wulfsden.com

"Vinny" <orlandovl@...> wrote:
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> Paul, you might try looking at the site. 
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> http://www.lhotka.com/bonny/Home.html
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> She does different type transfers to several different materials.
> 
> Vinny 
> www.wulfsden.com
>

Thanks for the URL.  It looks like Bonny Lhotka does all sorts of interesting things.  Some of her work uses a flatbed printer, which would be very nice, but also a bit expensive for most of us.  She does seem to use a few transfer materials also.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

If you do a goggle search on her name you can see some short
videos of the different transfers on different materials that she uses.

Vinny
www.wulfsden.com




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:

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> "Vinny" <orlandovl@> wrote:
> >
> > Paul, you might try looking at the site. 
> >   
> > http://www.lhotka.com/bonny/Home.html
> > 
> > She does different type transfers to several different materials.
> > 
> > Vinny 
> > www.wulfsden.com
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> 
> Thanks for the URL.  It looks like Bonny Lhotka does all sorts of interesting things.  Some of her work uses a flatbed printer, which would be very nice, but also a bit expensive for most of us.  She does seem to use a few transfer materials also.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

You should check out http://artongiclee.com

They print on all sorts of different materials, including different types of tile.

Gary

baffin@...
www.garyallenbrownphoto.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:20 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Printing on Tiles


    
  "Vinny" <orlandovl@...> wrote:
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  > Paul, you might try looking at the site. 
  > 
  > http://www.lhotka.com/bonny/Home.html
  > 
  > She does different type transfers to several different materials.
  > 
  > Vinny 
  > www.wulfsden.com
  >

  Thanks for the URL. It looks like Bonny Lhotka does all sorts of interesting things. Some of her work uses a flatbed printer, which would be very nice, but also a bit expensive for most of us. She does seem to use a few transfer materials also.

  Paul
  www.PaulRoark.com 



  

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"Gary Brown" <baffin@...> wrote:
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> You should check out http://artongiclee.com
> 
> They print on all sorts of different materials, including different types of tile.


Most of the transfer materials seem to be aimed at dye-sublimation, which makes me wonder about how permanent they are.   

The variety of materials that may be available as substrates for what we do is amazing.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Paul,
When you did your original post ..I took off and pointed out sublimation.. I am familiar with it .. we do murals.. for interior decorating use.. When used outside they must be coated every year with UV protectant or their gone.  When used inside the whole thing is much more forgiving. My kitchen back splash has been up for 8 years and still looks great.. I am however paying attention to this thread as I'm learning a few things and would like to try them.. 

jimbo

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:45 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Printing on Tiles


    
  "Gary Brown" <baffin@...> wrote:
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  > You should check out http://artongiclee.com
  > 
  > They print on all sorts of different materials, including different types of tile.

  Most of the transfer materials seem to be aimed at dye-sublimation, which makes me wonder about how permanent they are. 

  The variety of materials that may be available as substrates for what we do is amazing.

  Paul
  www.PaulRoark.com 



  

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