Digital BW, The Print

>
> I've been looking for profiles for the R200 using the MIS UT-R2 inkset but cannot seem to find them anywhere. QTR only offers GQ profiles in Windows. I'm using a funky profile I set up based on something I read on Clayton Jones website. It works and gives me decent prints in BO, which I am going to use to set up other profiles with Color Munki.
> 
> I'm so glad I have the 2880 with ABW. This RIP stuff for the R200 is challenging, to say the least.
>

>
> I've been looking for profiles for the R200 using the MIS UT-R2 inkset but cannot seem to find them anywhere. QTR only offers GQ profiles in Windows. I'm using a funky profile I set up based on something I read on Clayton Jones website. It works and gives me decent prints in BO, which I am going to use to set up other profiles with Color Munki.
> 
> I'm so glad I have the 2880 with ABW. This RIP stuff for the R200 is challenging, to say the least.
>

>
> 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Rusty Sterling" <rustysterling@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been looking for profiles for the R200 ...
> 
> "Roy" <roy@> wrote:
> >
> > You ought to start with the workflow of the one who designed
> > the inkset.   See Paul Roark's write up about UT-R2.
> > (note that the R220 and R200 are essentially identical)
> > 
> > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R220_R2_Readme.pdf
> > 
> 
> And note the date on that PDF.  
> 
> Newer versions of Photoshop and possible even OSs may have trouble with the use of ICCs and the printer driver's "Color Controls."
> 
> The systems now are emphasizing ICCs with the printer set to ICM/No Color Adjustment.  This is probably an effort to avoid people using 2 profiles together accidentally. 
> 
> I think I agree with the emphasis, but it does make the use of the old workflows problematic.
> 
> I think moving forward ICCs with standardized Epson driver settings may be the easiest way to support the older or smaller market printers. If variables are cut to a minimum, a few generic ICCs will be easy to make and support whole families of printers and inks.  
> 
> I'll make a limited number of these for a few papers & printers.  The 2880 with a monotone is going to be a platform like this, for example.  
> 
> 
> The MIS R2 inkset is one that was made for the Epson driver. That is, it uses densities that usually fit well into the Epson cross-overs and produce a good ramp with the built in default profiles.  These are what I've called the UT-C and UT-LC densities.  Ut-C is the standardized 30% jump down from MK.  (LK is the 30% dilution down from PK.)  Dropped into an Epson hextone or better printer, the R2's UT-C and LC densities look good.   Add an ICC to make it better.  This type of inkset is the easiest to support.  That's why it was called the hextone EZ set.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rusty
Sterling
Sent: 03 March 2011 07:02
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: QTR Profiles for R200 and MIS

 

  

Yow! I hardly understood anything you said. I have read everything you wrote
and Clayton Jones wrote.

Now you latest missive indicates how outdated things might be.

I just got my new MIS inksets today. Given what I just read I'm still not
sure how to use them with QTR for the R200. I'll continue to use my R2880
with ABW, so that is not a problem. But I really want to use these inksets
with the R200 effectively.

I'll read what you said and ponder it. I hope it ultimately helps. We shall
see.

Thanks,

Rusty

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "Paul"
<roark.paul@...> wrote:
>
> 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rusty Sterling"
<rustysterling@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been looking for profiles for the R200 ...
> 
> "Roy" <roy@> wrote:
> >
> > You ought to start with the workflow of the one who designed
> > the inkset. See Paul Roark's write up about UT-R2.
> > (note that the R220 and R200 are essentially identical)
> > 
> > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R220_R2_Readme.pdf
> > 
> 
> And note the date on that PDF. 
> 
> Newer versions of Photoshop and possible even OSs may have trouble with
the use of ICCs and the printer driver's "Color Controls."
> 
> The systems now are emphasizing ICCs with the printer set to ICM/No Color
Adjustment. This is probably an effort to avoid people using 2 profiles
together accidentally. 
> 
> I think I agree with the emphasis, but it does make the use of the old
workflows problematic.
> 
> I think moving forward ICCs with standardized Epson driver settings may be
the easiest way to support the older or smaller market printers. If
variables are cut to a minimum, a few generic ICCs will be easy to make and
support whole families of printers and inks. 
> 
> I'll make a limited number of these for a few papers & printers. The 2880
with a monotone is going to be a platform like this, for example. 
> 
> 
> The MIS R2 inkset is one that was made for the Epson driver. That is, it
uses densities that usually fit well into the Epson cross-overs and produce
a good ramp with the built in default profiles. These are what I've called
the UT-C and UT-LC densities. Ut-C is the standardized 30% jump down from
MK. (LK is the 30% dilution down from PK.) Dropped into an Epson hextone or
better printer, the R2's UT-C and LC densities look good. Add an ICC to make
it better. This type of inkset is the easiest to support. That's why it was
called the hextone EZ set.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>





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