Digital BW, The Print

Hi,
since I�m now succsessfully printing with my epson r285 (Germany) and Ultratone 3d in it for some weeks, something makes me nervous. Nearly everytime I print out a noozle check pattern I see clogs in the MK-position (I leave it in all the time cause I figured out (with the kind help of Paul) how to print on glossy and Matte with the dark greys building black for glossy). So even after one or two days the black position does not ive a proper noozle check. Is that normal? Any ideas how i can avoid this?

Marcus

"luxlebis" <luxlebis@...> wrote:
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> Hi,
> since I´m now succsessfully printing with my epson r285 (Germany) and Ultratone 3d in it for some weeks, something makes me nervous. Nearly everytime I print out a noozle check pattern I see clogs in the MK-position (I leave it in all the time cause I figured out (with the kind help of Paul) how to print on glossy and Matte with the dark greys building black for glossy). So even after one or two days the black position does not ive a proper noozle check. Is that normal? Any ideas how i can avoid this?


Clogging after just a couple of days of sitting is not normal.  I used an Epson 260 with Eboni in the K position for several years, and clogging did not occur very often.

Are the missing line always in the same place?  If so, it might actually be a clog.  If not, it could be foam.  The cart may not be sealing, allowing air to be pulled into the system.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
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> "luxlebis" <luxlebis@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > since I´m now succsessfully printing with my epson r285 (Germany) and Ultratone 3d in it for some weeks, something makes me nervous. Nearly everytime I print out a noozle check pattern I see clogs in the MK-position (I leave it in all the time cause I figured out (with the kind help of Paul) how to print on glossy and Matte with the dark greys building black for glossy). So even after one or two days the black position does not ive a proper noozle check. Is that normal? Any ideas how i can avoid this?
> 
> 
> Clogging after just a couple of days of sitting is not normal.  I used an Epson 260 with Eboni in the K position for several years, and clogging did not occur very often.


> 
> Are the missing line always in the same place?  If so, it might actually be a clog.  If not, it could be foam.  The cart may not be sealing, allowing air to be pulled into the system.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

As I figured out, the missing lines are always in the same place (after about two days 2 lines, after about a week sitting 4-5 missing lines. I think (not quite sure) the problem occured since I put a claria black in for some prints and after that the Eboni again. The last two days I had to run a cleaning cycle before printing to get the K-position clean. The other ink positions are fine. I´m a bit frustrated, because i was so happy to get the system going and get amazing (esp. matte) prints with it. Can I do something with the printhead (cleaning or something like that) to get rid of the problem?

Marcus

"luxlebis" <luxlebis@...> wrote:
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> ...
> > Are the missing line always in the same place?  If so, it might actually be a clog.  
...

> 
> As I figured out, the missing lines are always in the same place ... Can I do something with the printhead (cleaning or something like that) to get rid of the problem?


I use Windex (window cleaner with ammonia  in it) on the parking pad overnight to dissolve the clog.  Usually after sitting in it for a night a cleaning cycle will clear it.

But, the speed with which it is happening  to your printer is  unusual.  It may be a bad parking station.  You might see if you can clean the edges of it.  Also, keep the humidity where the printer is high if you can.  If you're in a dry or  high elevation area, consider a cover over the printer to keep moisture in the machine -- like a sealed bag, possibly with a wet sponge  inside (the printer waste tank in the base of the printer ought to do this).  If the printer is the type of has covers that  close, use  them to keep it  as sealed as possible when not in use.

Good  luck  with it.  

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
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> 
> "luxlebis" <luxlebis@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > ...
> > > Are the missing line always in the same place?  If so, it might actually be a clog.  
> ...
> 
> > 
> > As I figured out, the missing lines are always in the same place ... Can I do something with the printhead (cleaning or something like that) to get rid of the problem?
> 
> 
> I use Windex (window cleaner with ammonia  in it) on the parking pad overnight to dissolve the clog.  Usually after sitting in it for a night a cleaning cycle will clear it.
> 
> But, the speed with which it is happening  to your printer is  unusual.  It may be a bad parking station.  You might see if you can clean the edges of it.  Also, keep the humidity where the printer is high if you can.  If you're in a dry or  high elevation area, consider a cover over the printer to keep moisture in the machine -- like a sealed bag, possibly with a wet sponge  inside (the printer waste tank in the base of the printer ought to do this).  If the printer is the type of has covers that  close, use  them to keep it  as sealed as possible when not in use.
> 
> Good  luck  with it.  
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
Thank you,
does parking-pad mean you pull the ink-cartriges out and put the windex in there? I heard some use isopropyl-alcohol on a cotton swab in there?
Marcus

The parking pad is under where the head/cartridge assembly rests. You  have to move  the head to the left.  To unlock is, push the Ink Change button, let the head move to the left, and pull the electric  plug.  You'll see a black box with a sponge in it where the head would be resting when not in use.  That is the target for  the Windex (or alcohol).

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "luxlebis" <luxlebis@...> wrote:

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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, "Paul" <roark.paul@> wrote:
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> > "luxlebis" <luxlebis@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > > Are the missing line always in the same place?  If so, it might actually be a clog.  
> > ...
> > 
> > > 
> > > As I figured out, the missing lines are always in the same place ... Can I do something with the printhead (cleaning or something like that) to get rid of the problem?
> > 
> > 
> > I use Windex (window cleaner with ammonia  in it) on the parking pad overnight to dissolve the clog.  Usually after sitting in it for a night a cleaning cycle will clear it.
> > 
> > But, the speed with which it is happening  to your printer is  unusual.  It may be a bad parking station.  You might see if you can clean the edges of it.  Also, keep the humidity where the printer is high if you can.  If you're in a dry or  high elevation area, consider a cover over the printer to keep moisture in the machine -- like a sealed bag, possibly with a wet sponge  inside (the printer waste tank in the base of the printer ought to do this).  If the printer is the type of has covers that  close, use  them to keep it  as sealed as possible when not in use.
> > 
> > Good  luck  with it.  
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> Thank you,
> does parking-pad mean you pull the ink-cartriges out and put the windex in there? I heard some use isopropyl-alcohol on a cotton swab in there?
> Marcus
>

Ah now I got it thank you I hope that will fix it!
If the black position will not work cloggfree in the future I will go on use your curves for lenswork-warm on semigloss and gloss with this printer. I relinearized them for two papers (FB and semigloss) and they look absolute fantastic.

Marcus

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:

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> The parking pad is under where the head/cartridge assembly rests. You  have to move  the head to the left.  To unlock is, push the Ink Change button, let the head move to the left, and pull the electric  plug.  You'll see a black box with a sponge in it where the head would be resting when not in use.  That is the target for  the Windex (or alcohol).
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, "luxlebis" <luxlebis@> wrote:
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> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > "luxlebis" <luxlebis@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > ...
> > > > > Are the missing line always in the same place?  If so, it might actually be a clog.  
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > As I figured out, the missing lines are always in the same place ... Can I do something with the printhead (cleaning or something like that) to get rid of the problem?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I use Windex (window cleaner with ammonia  in it) on the parking pad overnight to dissolve the clog.  Usually after sitting in it for a night a cleaning cycle will clear it.
> > > 
> > > But, the speed with which it is happening  to your printer is  unusual.  It may be a bad parking station.  You might see if you can clean the edges of it.  Also, keep the humidity where the printer is high if you can.  If you're in a dry or  high elevation area, consider a cover over the printer to keep moisture in the machine -- like a sealed bag, possibly with a wet sponge  inside (the printer waste tank in the base of the printer ought to do this).  If the printer is the type of has covers that  close, use  them to keep it  as sealed as possible when not in use.
> > > 
> > > Good  luck  with it.  
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > >
> > Thank you,
> > does parking-pad mean you pull the ink-cartriges out and put the windex in there? I heard some use isopropyl-alcohol on a cotton swab in there?
> > Marcus
> >
>

I've found ammonia to be deadly to some of the plastics used by printers and (especially) scanners.

The same cleaner w/o ammonia is recommended.

Bob


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Bob McCarthy <bobmccarthy@...> wrote:
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> I've found ammonia to be deadly to some of the plastics used by printers and (especially) scanners.
> 
> The same cleaner w/o ammonia is recommended.

I think ammonia will dissolve some plastics.  Acrylic glazing, for example, should not, apparently, be cleaned with Windex with ammonia.

I think, however, that the small amount of ammonia in Windex is part of, if not the main thing, in the mix that will dissolve the binder that might be holding the pigments together and causing the clog.  I believe if Windex with ammonia is used for relatively short times -- like overnight -- on the parking pad, it will not do any harm.  This remedy has been used quite a bit without any negative reports that I know of.  That said, a high concentration of ammonia in a cleaning fluid might be harmful from what I've been told.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Go to the Yahoo Epson Printer group and look for posts by Art Entlich.  He is one of the co-moderators.  Art has long had available a cleaning guide for Epson printers and his tips have been helpful to me and many other members of that forum.  You have to request the cleaning guide from Art by direct email.  Every once in a while he posts the email address to use to request the guide, so browse through back posts.  Art's recommended solution for cleaning includes the ammonia containing Windex and alcohol and water.

from: Paul <roark.paul@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:39 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: clogging with UT3d
 

  
Bob McCarthy <bobmccarthy@...> wrote:
>
> I've found ammonia to be deadly to some of the plastics used by printers and (especially) scanners.
> 
> The same cleaner w/o ammonia is recommended.

I think ammonia will dissolve some plastics.  Acrylic glazing, for example, should not, apparently, be cleaned with Windex with ammonia.

I think, however, that the small amount of ammonia in Windex is part of, if not the main thing, in the mix that will dissolve the binder that might be holding the pigments together and causing the clog.  I believe if Windex with ammonia is used for relatively short times -- like overnight -- on the parking pad, it will not do any harm.  This remedy has been used quite a bit without any negative reports that I know of.  That said, a high concentration of ammonia in a cleaning fluid might be harmful from what I've been told.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


 

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