Digital BW, The Print

I found a cache of ICC profiles today and am wondering if I can use these. A number of them seem well suited for use with Red River papers on an Epson 1400. I have a 1400 and usually print on Red River Art White, Polar Gloss or Polar Matte. Can anyone explain the following:

These ICCs are for the Plus 4 set of B&W inks. Will they work with the UT-14 (six set) of inks?

Each of the ICCs is listed with a name that is in code, for example:

1400-EB4-RR-auoraW-n2-rgb.icc

I'm assuming this means:

1400 printer

Ebony 4 ink set

Red River Aurora White paper

n2 - Neutral 2?

rgb - set color space to RGB?

What else do I need to know? Thanks in advance.

"remononaz1" <homershannon@...> wrote:
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> I found a cache of ICC profiles today and am wondering if I can use these. A number of them seem well suited for use with Red River papers on an Epson 1400. I have a 1400 and usually print on Red River Art White, Polar Gloss or Polar Matte. Can anyone explain the following:
> 
> These ICCs are for the Plus 4 set of B&W inks. Will they work with the UT-14 (six set) of inks?


ICCs are specific for the inkset named.  usually mine are in Zip files that are linked to PDFs with respect to a specific inkset.  UT14 is not the same as Eboni-4 Plus, if that is what the one was referring to.


> 
> Each of the ICCs is listed with a name that is in code, for example:
> 
> 1400-EB4-RR-auoraW-n2-rgb.icc
> 
> I'm assuming this means:
> 
> 1400 printer

Yes.


> 
> Ebony 4 ink set


Yes.

> 
> Red River Aurora White paper


Yes.  I think you'll find the Red River Natural uses the same profiles.

> 
> n2 - Neutral 2?


There can be more than a single ICC or profile that is "neutral."  Sometimes I re-do one for some reason.  If there are more than one, just see which one works best for you.

 
> rgb - set color space to RGB?


QTR's Create ICC-RGB, which was used to make the ICCs, puts an "rgb" at the end.  The plain Create ICC does not.  You still use a grayscale file when printing, however.  I think if you use an RGB file it will covert it to gray scale prior to applying the embedded curves.

 
> What else do I need to know? 

It's a good idea to read the PDF I've written on the inkset.  An index (not totally complete) of PDFs by printer and inkset name is at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Inkset-list.html

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Oh, yes. 

'Click here for the 1400's UT14 variable-tone, glossy & matte compatible approach'

this is a paper I'm familiar with. This one I understand and it is about as far as I've been able to get with good results. 

Homer

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:

>
> "remononaz1" <homershannon@> wrote:
> >
> > I found a cache of ICC profiles today and am wondering if I can use these. A number of them seem well suited for use with Red River papers on an Epson 1400. I have a 1400 and usually print on Red River Art White, Polar Gloss or Polar Matte. Can anyone explain the following:
> > 
> > These ICCs are for the Plus 4 set of B&W inks. Will they work with the UT-14 (six set) of inks?
> 
> 
> ICCs are specific for the inkset named.  usually mine are in Zip files that are linked to PDFs with respect to a specific inkset.  UT14 is not the same as Eboni-4 Plus, if that is what the one was referring to.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Each of the ICCs is listed with a name that is in code, for example:
> > 
> > 1400-EB4-RR-auoraW-n2-rgb.icc
> > 
> > I'm assuming this means:
> > 
> > 1400 printer
> 
> Yes.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Ebony 4 ink set
> 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > 
> > Red River Aurora White paper
> 
> 
> Yes.  I think you'll find the Red River Natural uses the same profiles.
> 
> > 
> > n2 - Neutral 2?
> 
> 
> There can be more than a single ICC or profile that is "neutral."  Sometimes I re-do one for some reason.  If there are more than one, just see which one works best for you.
> 
>  
> > rgb - set color space to RGB?
> 
> 
> QTR's Create ICC-RGB, which was used to make the ICCs, puts an "rgb" at the end.  The plain Create ICC does not.  You still use a grayscale file when printing, however.  I think if you use an RGB file it will covert it to gray scale prior to applying the embedded curves.
> 
>  
> > What else do I need to know? 
> 
> It's a good idea to read the PDF I've written on the inkset.  An index (not totally complete) of PDFs by printer and inkset name is at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Inkset-list.html
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>