Digital BW, The Print

Is it the C6b mix in Paul's Ink Mixing PDF or something else? I e-mailed MIS but received no reply.

As an experiment, I tried mixing 50% Y from C6 (which is mostly base) and 50% LC (from UT14) but the resulting ink was way too warm. My objective is a lighter, smoother LC for making UT14 cool curves.

Mark

"mccarvill" <mccarvill@...> wrote:
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> Is it the C6b mix in Paul's Ink Mixing PDF or something else? I e-mailed MIS but received no reply.


UT14 uses MIS glossy pigments, which use MIS R800 Gloss Optimizer (glop) as the dilution base.  It's the same price as the inks, so there is no savings in mixing your own, for example LK from PK.  Otherwise, the MIS glop works fine as a dilution base for MIS glossy pigments.

The generic bases I describe at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf do not have any binder in them.  As such, they work for carbon on matte paper, and they also seem to work very well with HP pigments on matte or glossy, as long as you don't mind the usual bronzing on the glossy papers.  

The difference between MIS and HP pigments here is that the HP pigments are coated and stick to the paper without the need for a binder in the base.  MIS pigments are not coated and do depend on binder in the base to stick them to glossy papers.  As such, MIS "glossy" pigments become matte paper only pigments when diluted with the generic base.

 
> ...My objective is a lighter, smoother LC for making UT14 cool curves.


For this, assuming you want to keep glossy paper compatibility, I'd dilute the UT14 LC with MIS glop.  The normal mixing ratio is 30% LC to 70% glop.  For home mixing without a scales, I recommend a 1:2 mixing ratio.  This is easy to do with 10cc syringes.  They have a stop you can feel at the end, so you can do a good, accurate job virtually blindfolded.  (Well, I would not really try this, but you get the point.)  


Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Thanks, Paul. I mixed UT14 LC with UT14 Y (GLOP) 50/50 and it worked well. 

I only print on matte paper, so I'll mix up some of your C6b base.

I plan to experiment with adding two more dilutions to smooth things further.

Mark 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:

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> "mccarvill" <mccarvill@> wrote:
> >
> > Is it the C6b mix in Paul's Ink Mixing PDF or something else? I e-mailed MIS but received no reply.
> 
> 
> UT14 uses MIS glossy pigments, which use MIS R800 Gloss Optimizer (glop) as the dilution base.  It's the same price as the inks, so there is no savings in mixing your own, for example LK from PK.  Otherwise, the MIS glop works fine as a dilution base for MIS glossy pigments.
> 
> The generic bases I describe at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf do not have any binder in them.  As such, they work for carbon on matte paper, and they also seem to work very well with HP pigments on matte or glossy, as long as you don't mind the usual bronzing on the glossy papers.  
> 
> The difference between MIS and HP pigments here is that the HP pigments are coated and stick to the paper without the need for a binder in the base.  MIS pigments are not coated and do depend on binder in the base to stick them to glossy papers.  As such, MIS "glossy" pigments become matte paper only pigments when diluted with the generic base.
> 
>  
> > ...My objective is a lighter, smoother LC for making UT14 cool curves.
> 
> 
> For this, assuming you want to keep glossy paper compatibility, I'd dilute the UT14 LC with MIS glop.  The normal mixing ratio is 30% LC to 70% glop.  For home mixing without a scales, I recommend a 1:2 mixing ratio.  This is easy to do with 10cc syringes.  They have a stop you can feel at the end, so you can do a good, accurate job virtually blindfolded.  (Well, I would not really try this, but you get the point.)  
> 
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>