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QTR ICCs Missing in Lr4b

QTR ICCs Missing in Lr4b

2012-03-12 by remononaz1

I created a couple of ICC profiles using the Quad Tone RIP ICC generation tool. I put these in the appropriate file and tested them (created them, actually) using CS4. They work fine with CS4. However, they do not show up in Lightroom, even when I open up the ICC panel and check under profiles>other. I tried selecting monitor ICCs just to be sure it wasn't listed there - it wasn't. 

Earlier I did have some issues with CS4 showing the ICCs correctly, but this turned out to be due internal file naming issues and I solved this so that the ICCs work fine with CS4.

I have seen posts that state that Lr can only use RGB ICCs. I created the ICCs using the step tone wedge tool and the basic ICC generation tool. I'm not sure if they are RGB or not. (Certainly not CMYK.) How do I determine this and create ICCs that will show up in both CS4 and Lr?

Re: QTR ICCs Missing in Lr4b

2012-03-12 by Paul

Ues QTR's Create ICC-RGB.  I now use it even if I'm not embedding a PS curve.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "remononaz1" <homershannon@...> wrote:
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> I created a couple of ICC profiles using the Quad Tone RIP ICC generation tool. I put these in the appropriate file and tested them (created them, actually) using CS4. They work fine with CS4. However, they do not show up in Lightroom, even when I open up the ICC panel and check under profiles>other. I tried selecting monitor ICCs just to be sure it wasn't listed there - it wasn't. 
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> Earlier I did have some issues with CS4 showing the ICCs correctly, but this turned out to be due internal file naming issues and I solved this so that the ICCs work fine with CS4.
> 
> I have seen posts that state that Lr can only use RGB ICCs. I created the ICCs using the step tone wedge tool and the basic ICC generation tool. I'm not sure if they are RGB or not. (Certainly not CMYK.) How do I determine this and create ICCs that will show up in both CS4 and Lr?
>

Re: QTR ICCs Missing in Lr4b

2012-03-12 by remononaz1

Thank you, Paul. Based on what I had figured out, I suspected that might be the answer. 

Tell me, is there a "QTR for Dummies" forum or tutorial around? I am getting up the learning curve, but it is a slow process and I hate to post too many naive questions here. I think I've read all of your documents now, but still I seem to be missing the 50,000 foot view and get confused in all the detail. 


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
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> Ues QTR's Create ICC-RGB.  I now use it even if I'm not embedding a PS curve.
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> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
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> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "remononaz1" <homershannon@> wrote:
> >
> > I created a couple of ICC profiles using the Quad Tone RIP ICC generation tool. I put these in the appropriate file and tested them (created them, actually) using CS4. They work fine with CS4. However, they do not show up in Lightroom, even when I open up the ICC panel and check under profiles>other. I tried selecting monitor ICCs just to be sure it wasn't listed there - it wasn't. 
> > 
> > Earlier I did have some issues with CS4 showing the ICCs correctly, but this turned out to be due internal file naming issues and I solved this so that the ICCs work fine with CS4.
> > 
> > I have seen posts that state that Lr can only use RGB ICCs. I created the ICCs using the step tone wedge tool and the basic ICC generation tool. I'm not sure if they are RGB or not. (Certainly not CMYK.) How do I determine this and create ICCs that will show up in both CS4 and Lr?
> >
>

Re: QTR ICCs Missing in Lr4b

2012-03-12 by Paul

"remononaz1" <homershannon@...> wrote:
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>... is there a "QTR for Dummies" forum 

There is a QTR forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/messages .

There is quite a bit of overlap with this forum, and it it not inappropriate to ask QTR questions here.

>or tutorial around?

Of course you'll want to read Tom Moore's tutorial that is, I think, in the QTR download.

I go over an abbreviated QTR workflow in several of my PDFs on inksets.  See, for example, http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf .  This takes people through several alternatives, including the Epson driver, with and without an ICC, then QTR -- the full rip.

For making ICCs, see http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Embedding_Photoshop_Curves_in_ICCs.pdf and http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Making_B-W_ICCs-GrayCard.pdf .

The second one is about linearizing with a flatbed.  Roy Harrington (QTR) has taken that to the next step with his StepWedge Tool.  See his download page http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRdownload.html and the tutorial that is with it relating to how to use that tool.

It does take a while to get down the learning curve, but it's worth the effort.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: QTR ICCs Missing in Lr4b

2012-03-12 by john

In addition, check out Lou Dina's great tutorial in the QTR folder in the file section of this group.  If you are in a Mac it is a great resource.  It is very thorough, but for some reason seems to be overlooked.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <roark.paul@...> wrote:
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> "remononaz1" <homershannon@> wrote:
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> >... is there a "QTR for Dummies" forum 
> 
> There is a QTR forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/messages .
> 
> There is quite a bit of overlap with this forum, and it it not inappropriate to ask QTR questions here.
> 
> >or tutorial around?
> 
> Of course you'll want to read Tom Moore's tutorial that is, I think, in the QTR download.
> 
> I go over an abbreviated QTR workflow in several of my PDFs on inksets.  See, for example, http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf .  This takes people through several alternatives, including the Epson driver, with and without an ICC, then QTR -- the full rip.
> 
> For making ICCs, see http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Embedding_Photoshop_Curves_in_ICCs.pdf and http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Making_B-W_ICCs-GrayCard.pdf .
> 
> The second one is about linearizing with a flatbed.  Roy Harrington (QTR) has taken that to the next step with his StepWedge Tool.  See his download page http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRdownload.html and the tutorial that is with it relating to how to use that tool.
> 
> It does take a while to get down the learning curve, but it's worth the effort.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

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