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2012-06-17 by Lew Schwartz
I love this "look," so I'm wondering if anyone has a paper/ink combo that comes close, preferably using PS or LR. I know there are a number of commercial presets that claim to do it, but I haven't seen any I really like. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2012-06-17 by E.Neilsen
Lew, When you talk Platinum/palladium are you thinking warm and textured? I don't use LR for output and the best combination, Peizotone Sepia, that I had was discontinued this year. However, the Epson printers using ABW I have a setting for my 4800 that I am quite happy with. I like the William Turner 190 as one look of a PT/PD print. there are of course many papers that work. Eric Neilsen Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 www.ericneilsenphotography.com skype me with ejprinter Let's Talk Photography _____
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lew Schwartz Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:28 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Platinum/Palladium look I love this "look," so I'm wondering if anyone has a paper/ink combo that comes close, preferably using PS or LR. I know there are a number of commercial presets that claim to do it, but I haven't seen any I really like. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2012-06-17 by Mark Savoia
Printing on un-coated paper helps too. Mark http://www.stillrivereditions.com
On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:49 AM, E.Neilsen wrote: > Lew, When you talk Platinum/palladium are you thinking warm and textured? I > don't use LR for output and the best combination, Peizotone Sepia, that I > had was discontinued this year. However, the Epson printers using ABW I have > a setting for my 4800 that I am quite happy with. I like the William Turner > 190 as one look of a PT/PD print. there are of course many papers that work. > > > Eric Neilsen > Eric Neilsen Photography > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 > Dallas, TX 75226 > > www.ericneilsenphotography.com > skype me with ejprinter > Let's Talk Photography > >
2012-06-17 by ramonmagee
Eric, would you mind sharing your 4800 ABW settings for platinum/palladium? Ramon On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Mark Savoia wrote: > Printing on un-coated paper helps too. > > Mark > http://www.stillrivereditions.com > > On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:49 AM, E.Neilsen wrote: > > > Lew, When you talk Platinum/palladium are you thinking warm and textured? I > > don't use LR for output and the best combination, Peizotone Sepia, that I > > had was discontinued this year. However, the Epson printers using ABW I have > > a setting for my 4800 that I am quite happy with. I like the William Turner > > 190 as one look of a PT/PD print. there are of course many papers that work. > > > > > > Eric Neilsen > > Eric Neilsen Photography > > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 > > Dallas, TX 75226 > > > > www.ericneilsenphotography.com > > skype me with ejprinter > > Let's Talk Photography > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2012-06-17 by Paul
From what I can tell, a lot of the "look" of these prints comes from their matte paper base. In terms of tones/hues, warm seems to be about as good a description as I've seen. The various processes seem to result in different degrees of warmth. From what I've been able to tell, using 100% carbon pigments on a natural paper comes within the range of these prints and also gives one as close as possible with inkjet technology to the longevity that the platinum/palladium prints appear to achieve. (On that front, I wonder what the strong chemicals do to the paper base.) It may be that using the warmer carbon like Cone sepia or MIS LK, etc. (a full range there) would be slightly better than the MIS Eboni based inksets. There are enough MIS carbons to easily put together an Epson driver compatible set. The 220 UT R2 warm was essentially such a set. I would set it up a little differently if one is comfortable with minor PS curves adjustments and making an ICC for the easiest printing workflow. Paul www.PaulRoark.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@...> wrote:
> > I love this "look," so I'm wondering if anyone has a paper/ink combo that > comes close, preferably using PS or LR. I know there are a number of > commercial presets that claim to do it, but I haven't seen any I really > like. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2012-06-17 by E.Neilsen
I'll tell you what I do to make it. With QTRs handy 100 step scale, I open up the ABW setting and dial in some settings until it gets close to a range, and there you have it. Different papers require more or less Dmax, . I'll get you close on Monday. I don't have it saved on this computer. If one has a profile maker, Profile Maker 5, Datacolor equipment, etc, you can certainly make a profile to do the same thing and I have. This is the down and dirty way for just using the ABW. Anytime someone wants to do a PT/PD print match, I would question whose prints that they have seen so I could get them a little closer to expectations. And as Paul started to go towards, the special ink sets vs standard color sets... how are you trying to get there; the look. Eric Neilsen Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 www.ericneilsenphotography.com skype me with ejprinter Let's Talk Photography
-----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ramonmagee Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 9:22 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Platinum/Palladium look Eric, would you mind sharing your 4800 ABW settings for platinum/palladium? Ramon On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Mark Savoia wrote: > Printing on un-coated paper helps too. > > Mark > http://www.stillrivereditions.com > > On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:49 AM, E.Neilsen wrote: > > > Lew, When you talk Platinum/palladium are you thinking warm and textured? I > > don't use LR for output and the best combination, Peizotone Sepia, that I > > had was discontinued this year. However, the Epson printers using ABW I have > > a setting for my 4800 that I am quite happy with. I like the William Turner > > 190 as one look of a PT/PD print. there are of course many papers that work. > > > > > > Eric Neilsen > > Eric Neilsen Photography > > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 > > Dallas, TX 75226 > > > > www.ericneilsenphotography.com > > skype me with ejprinter > > Let's Talk Photography > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links