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2013-07-27 by livingwithbugs@...
I am setting up a refurbished Epson 1400 and running into the (well know?) issues with thick papers. As I understand it the paper thickness is set in the driver not buy a lever as in older printers. The problem is I am running under linux so I don't use Win or Mac drivers. Has anyone else encountered this dilemma?
2013-07-27 by Paul Roark
300 gsm papers go through a 1400 with just a little manual assist in feeding; no driver or other changes are needed. If they don't it's usually because the feed roller is dirty. Some papers foul it. Running a sheet through that is sprayed with Windex seems to work to clean the roller(s). Paul www.PaulRoark.com On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, <livingwithbugs@gmail.com> wrote: > ** > > > I am setting up a refurbished Epson 1400 and running into the (well know?) > issues with thick papers. As I understand it the paper thickness is set in > the driver not buy a lever as in older printers. The problem is I am > running under linux so I don't use Win or Mac drivers. Has anyone else > encountered this dilemma? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-07-27 by livingwithbugs@...
The paper I'm trying to use is 315 gsm (Innova STNW). Since the printer is new (refurbished) I think the rollers are probably clean. The problem is that the rollers grab the paper ok but then an error is generated (flashing red light) and the paper is ejected. My guess is there's a "paper thickness sensor" that is being triggered by the slightly too thick paper. If I could set the "envelope" switch the print head would move a little further away from the paper. Unfortunately the envelope setting is done in the driver instead of manually (I think). Thanks Jack DeAngelis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark <roark.paul@...> wrote:
> > 300 gsm papers go through a 1400 with just a little manual assist in > feeding; no driver or other changes are needed. > > If they don't it's usually because the feed roller is dirty. Some papers > foul it. Running a sheet through that is sprayed with Windex seems to work > to clean the roller(s). > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, <livingwithbugs@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > I am setting up a refurbished Epson 1400 and running into the (well know?) > > issues with thick papers. As I understand it the paper thickness is set in > > the driver not buy a lever as in older printers. The problem is I am > > running under linux so I don't use Win or Mac drivers. Has anyone else > > encountered this dilemma? > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2013-07-27 by bengui
On 7/27/2013 3:33 PM, livingwithbugs@... wrote: > > The paper I'm trying to use is 315 gsm (Innova STNW). Since the > printer is new (refurbished) I think the rollers are probably clean. > The problem is that the rollers grab the paper ok but then an error is > generated (flashing red light) and the paper is ejected. My guess is > there's a "paper thickness sensor" that is being triggered by the > slightly too thick paper. If I could set the "envelope" switch the > print head would move a little further away from the paper. > Unfortunately the envelope setting is done in the driver instead of > manually (I think). > > Thanks > > Jack DeAngelis > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>, Paul Roark > <roark.paul@...> wrote: > > > > 300 gsm papers go through a 1400 with just a little manual assist in > > feeding; no driver or other changes are needed. > > > > If they don't it's usually because the feed roller is dirty. Some papers > > foul it. Running a sheet through that is sprayed with Windex seems > to work > > to clean the roller(s). > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, <livingwithbugs@...> wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > I am setting up a refurbished Epson 1400 and running into the > (well know?) > > > issues with thick papers. As I understand it the paper thickness > is set in > > > the driver not buy a lever as in older printers. The problem is I am > > > running under linux so I don't use Win or Mac drivers. Has anyone else > > > encountered this dilemma? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > *Try running an Epson adhesive page through your printer. Paper dust on rollers can cause the problem you describe. I usually run my own adhesive pages (several vertical mounted strips of double sided 1/2 - 3/4" scotch tape on a page of typing paper) through my 1400/1430 several times when I'm using thick paper that is being rejected. It usually solves my problem. Tom Hefter* > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-07-28 by J.F. Felinik
Very strange, I just printed Innova Warm Cotton Gloss here today on my 1400, (it's 335 gsm), and no problems what so ever.. Maybe the printer need some kind of adjustment/service ? -- http://felinik.com http://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik <https://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik> 2013/7/28 <livingwithbugs@...> > ** > > > The paper I'm trying to use is 315 gsm (Innova STNW). Since the printer is > new (refurbished) I think the rollers are probably clean. The problem is > that the rollers grab the paper ok but then an error is generated (flashing > red light) and the paper is ejected. My guess is there's a "paper thickness > sensor" that is being triggered by the slightly too thick paper. If I could > set the "envelope" switch the print head would move a little further away > from the paper. Unfortunately the envelope setting is done in the driver > instead of manually (I think). > > Thanks > > Jack DeAngelis > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark > <roark.paul@...> wrote: > > > > 300 gsm papers go through a 1400 with just a little manual assist in > > feeding; no driver or other changes are needed. > > > > If they don't it's usually because the feed roller is dirty. Some papers > > foul it. Running a sheet through that is sprayed with Windex seems to > work > > to clean the roller(s). > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, <livingwithbugs@...> wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > I am setting up a refurbished Epson 1400 and running into the (well > know?) > > > issues with thick papers. As I understand it the paper thickness is > set in > > > the driver not buy a lever as in older printers. The problem is I am > > > running under linux so I don't use Win or Mac drivers. Has anyone else > > > encountered this dilemma? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-07-28 by Keith
I have two 1400's both bought at the same time. One will load and print perfectly Bockingford Inkjet paper, weight 190g. The other will not load whatever I try, I have cleaned the feed roller, tried a gentle push, also put a piece of low tack film at the point that the feed roller hits the paper, also tried the envelope setting, all to no avail. Only one point that I can think of is that the machine that feeds OK has always had Epson Claria carts in it, the other machine has a home made pigment setup, based loosely on Paul Roark's. Keith Dugdale.
2013-07-28 by Vincent Wan
On a 1430 I've had problems feeding Canson 310gsm RAG Photographique but not Epson Hotpress Natural 310gms. I found that I needed several sheets in the feeder for it to feed reliably (I wound up using bad prints, printed side down, so that I didn't waste new paper. Vincent Wan August 2012 PhD. Committee on the Conceptual and Historical Studies of Science, University of Chicago. Once and future professor of Biology
2013-07-29 by David Kachel
I noticed. I noticed a problem with the 1400 and one matte paper yesterday that I have experienced before, so I thought I would share the solution. This first happened to me with an HP B9180 and Red River's Aurora paper. It drove me nuts for a long time. With some papers, inks don't dry fast enough and the rollers drag wet ink down the paper leaving streaks parallel to the long axis. These can be very subtle and tend to occur more often when heavy ink deposits precede lighter areas. It has never happened to me with an Epson printer and any paper till now, but it happened yesterday with the 1400 and the warm carbon ink set with which I am experimenting. With a more advanced printer, the printing speed can be slowed and the problem presumably solved that way, but the 1400 doesn't allow that option. The solution is tedious, but entirely effective: stand in front of the printer with a hair dryer (new, or you'll fill your printer with hair particles) and blow dry your print through the feeding slot as it is printing. (You can understand why, among other reasons, I ditched HP printers!) David Kachel ___________________ Artist-Photographer Fine B&W Photographs www.davidkachel.com david@... Gallery: www.reddoorfinephotographs.com director@... PO Box 1893 Alpine, TX 79831 (432) 386-5787 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-07-29 by J.F. Felinik
I've never seen pizza trails on the 1400 with matte papers, maybe your exit rollers need a bit of cleaning? Try running the thickest watercolor paper you can find, through the printer a cpl of times. My 1400 is ok as long as I keep the rollers clean, and I print mostly surface papers with the UT-14 set. Though dark and dense prints is a no no, on those occasions I always get trails. Ended up getting a 7600 instead as it feed the paper in a different way (no exit rollers). During the next week I'll pimp it up to a Piezography printer. :) -- http://felinik.com http://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik <https://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik> 2013/7/29 David Kachel <david@...> > ** > > > I noticed. > I noticed a problem with the 1400 and one matte paper yesterday that I > have experienced before, so I thought I would share the solution. > This first happened to me with an HP B9180 and Red River's Aurora paper. It > drove me nuts for a long time. > With some papers, inks don't dry fast enough and the rollers drag wet ink > down the paper leaving streaks parallel to the long axis. These can be very > subtle and tend to occur more often when heavy ink deposits precede lighter > areas. > It has never happened to me with an Epson printer and any paper till now, > but it happened yesterday with the 1400 and the warm carbon ink set with > which I am experimenting. > With a more advanced printer, the printing speed can be slowed and the > problem presumably solved that way, but the 1400 doesn't allow that option. > The solution is tedious, but entirely effective: stand in front of the > printer with a hair dryer (new, or you'll fill your printer with hair > particles) and blow dry your print through the feeding slot as it is > printing. (You can understand why, among other reasons, I ditched HP > printers!) > > David Kachel > > ___________________ > > Artist-Photographer > Fine B&W Photographs > > www.davidkachel.com > david@... > > Gallery: > www.reddoorfinephotographs.com > director@... > > PO Box 1893 > Alpine, TX 79831 > (432) 386-5787 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-07-29 by David Kachel
On 7/29/13 4:40 AM, "J.F. Felinik" <jf@...> wrote: >I've never seen pizza trails on the 1400 with matte papers, maybe your >exit >rollers need a bit of cleaning? The marks I was talking about are NOT pizza wheel marks. That's something entirely different. David Kachel ___________________ Artist-Photographer Fine B&W Photographs www.davidkachel.com david@... Gallery: www.reddoorfinephotographs.com director@... PO Box 1893 Alpine, TX 79831 (432) 386-5787
2013-07-29 by J.F. Felinik
Oh, I see now, sorry for the confusion. :) -- http://felinik.com http://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik <https://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik> 2013/7/29 David Kachel <david@...> > ** > > > On 7/29/13 4:40 AM, "J.F. Felinik" <jf@...> wrote: > > >I've never seen pizza trails on the 1400 with matte papers, maybe your > >exit > >rollers need a bit of cleaning? > > The marks I was talking about are NOT pizza wheel marks. That's something > entirely different. > > > David Kachel > > ___________________ > > Artist-Photographer > Fine B&W Photographs > > www.davidkachel.com > david@... > > Gallery: > www.reddoorfinephotographs.com > director@reddoorfinephotographs.com > > PO Box 1893 > Alpine, TX 79831 > (432) 386-5787 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-07-29 by Jack DeAngelis
*Sounds like these feed issues are hit or miss to some extent. Thanks to all that responded and I'll certainly post a follow up if I learn anything new. At this point the culprits are (1) dirty feed roller; (2) Linux/Wine issues - no access to the "envelope" setting from Linux; and (3) differences in paper thickness/surface texture. Can someone confirm that there's an "envelope" setting in the Mac Epson driver? I'm considering setting up a dedicated Mac printer station to eliminate Linux/Wine from the equation. Thanks. * *Jack * [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-07-29 by J.F. Felinik
I'm on Mac OS X 10.7, and I have that setting on the Epson driver for my 1400, in the control panel under "printers" when chosing the printer and clicking to see more options. -- http://felinik.com http://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik <https://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik> 2013/7/29 Jack DeAngelis <livingwithbugs@...> > ** > > > *Sounds like these feed issues are hit or miss to some extent. Thanks to > all that responded and I'll certainly post a follow up if I learn anything > new. At this point the culprits are (1) dirty feed roller; (2) Linux/Wine > issues - no access to the "envelope" setting from Linux; and (3) > differences in paper thickness/surface texture. Can someone confirm that > there's an "envelope" setting in the Mac Epson driver? I'm considering > setting up a dedicated Mac printer station to eliminate Linux/Wine from the > equation. Thanks. > > * > *Jack > > > * > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-08-02 by livingwithbugs@...
And the winner is ... dirty/oily feed roller! The confusing part was that the paper sometimes fed ok but thicker paper generated a "paper out"/"double feed" error. This made me think that the problem was a paper thickness sensor and hence a problem in the Linux driver. Turns out that the thicker paper just caused a slight skip at the start of the feed because the roller was slipping. The printer translated the skip into a "double feed" error. My guess is that the roller was contaminated with oil (this was a new/refurbished printer) because once cleaned with ALCOHOL (see below) the errors stopped. I found an Epson 1400 service manual that recommended an industrial strength method for cleaning the feed roller. They suggest attaching a piece of cloth to an index card (I used staples), dampen the card with alcohol (I used 80% ethanol but 70% rubbing alcohol would probably work), hold the cloth/card in front of the feed roller and press the paper button (hold on tight!). I did this several times. The windex-dampened paper method might have worked as well but I think alcohol has a better chance of dissolving oil/grease. Thanks again for everyone's help, I'm back in business. Jack DeAngelis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jack DeAngelis <livingwithbugs@...> wrote:
> > *Sounds like these feed issues are hit or miss to some extent. Thanks to > all that responded and I'll certainly post a follow up if I learn anything > new. At this point the culprits are (1) dirty feed roller; (2) Linux/Wine > issues - no access to the "envelope" setting from Linux; and (3) > differences in paper thickness/surface texture. Can someone confirm that > there's an "envelope" setting in the Mac Epson driver? I'm considering > setting up a dedicated Mac printer station to eliminate Linux/Wine from the > equation. Thanks. > > * > *Jack > > * > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >