Digital BW, The Print

Mike wrote:

>ImagePrint 4 ... WILL NOT run the MIS Sepia VM inks at this time.
>I don't know if MIS has a FS Sepia out yet.

George J Kunze wrote:

  >...  Does anyone know if the Imageprint 4 can run the
>MIS Sepia inks without curve adjustments etc.? ...

MIS seems to make available what people want.  If people want an FS-sepia,
let MIS know this.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

What a concept !!!

They've sure been responsive so far. The only thing they seem to 
resist that almost everyone I've spoken with wants is some way to get 
a test cart set of new inks... I can see why they wouldn't want to 
have to stock both bulk and carts of every conceiveable variation, 
but the commitment to bulk ink isn't just a money one...it's a system 
commitment for a significant period of time (I guess you could say 
its always just money, you can toss the ink if you really don't like 
it, but the reality is you sort of use up all the ink and then try 
another or stay with it for a system).

Long-winded..sorry... Is there some other way we can work with them 
to get test carts? Or am I missing something?

tom

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Mike wrote:
> 
> >ImagePrint 4 ... WILL NOT run the MIS Sepia VM inks at this time.
> >I don't know if MIS has a FS Sepia out yet.
> 
> George J Kunze wrote:
> 
>   >...  Does anyone know if the Imageprint 4 can run the
> >MIS Sepia inks without curve adjustments etc.? ...
> 
> MIS seems to make available what people want.  If people want an FS-
sepia,

> let MIS know this.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

In a message dated 3/9/2002 5:25:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
paul.roark@... writes:


> George J Kunze wrote:
> 
>   >...  Does anyone know if the Imageprint 4 can run the
> >MIS Sepia inks without curve adjustments etc.? ...
> 
> MIS seems to make available what people want.  If people want an FS-sepia,
> let MIS know this.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 

I apologize. For some reason or other I was under the impression that MIS had 
already released a Sepia toned ink set.
Thank you,
 George J Kunze


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Paul,  

As there have been numerous messages related to MIS not answering emails....can you recommend a good way for us to communicate our interest in the Sepia inks.  

As I wrote some weeks before...I am interested in Sepia FS and would buy some to try.  

Steadman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Roark 
  To: DigitalB&WPrint 
  Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Full Spectrum Neutral ... FS-Sepia


  Mike wrote:

  >ImagePrint 4 ... WILL NOT run the MIS Sepia VM inks at this time.
  >I don't know if MIS has a FS Sepia out yet.

  George J Kunze wrote:

    >...  Does anyone know if the Imageprint 4 can run the
  >MIS Sepia inks without curve adjustments etc.? ...

  MIS seems to make available what people want.  If people want an FS-sepia,
  let MIS know this.

  Paul
  http://www.PaulRoark.com


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Steadman,

I usually find that if I call them after lunch I can get through with little or no problems.
 
Regards,

Michael J. Kravit
Architect/Photographer
Boca Raton, Florida
www.kravit.net

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steadman Uhlich 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 7:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Full Spectrum Neutral ... FS-Sepia


  Paul,  

  As there have been numerous messages related to MIS not answering emails....can you recommend a good way for us to communicate our interest in the Sepia inks.  

  As I wrote some weeks before...I am interested in Sepia FS and would buy some to try.  

  Steadman
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Paul Roark 
    To: DigitalB&WPrint 
    Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:28 PM
    Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Full Spectrum Neutral ... FS-Sepia


    Mike wrote:

    >ImagePrint 4 ... WILL NOT run the MIS Sepia VM inks at this time.
    >I don't know if MIS has a FS Sepia out yet.

    George J Kunze wrote:

      >...  Does anyone know if the Imageprint 4 can run the
    >MIS Sepia inks without curve adjustments etc.? ...

    MIS seems to make available what people want.  If people want an FS-sepia,
    let MIS know this.

    Paul
    http://www.PaulRoark.com


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In a message dated 3/9/2002 5:25:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
paul.roark@... writes:


 George wrote:
>
>  ... For some reason or other I was under the impression that MIS had
>already released a Sepia toned ink set.

They are selling the MIS VM-sepia.  This needs the curves just like the
standard MIS Vm inkset, and it does not work with the Piezo driver.  I have
formulated the basic FS/Piezo-compatible cyan-position sepia ink.  So anyone
can mix a batch of FS-sepia, but MIS is not mixing and selling it at this
time.
_______

Tom wrote:

>[MIS has] sure been responsive so far. The only thing they seem to
>resist that almost everyone I've spoken with wants is some way to get
>a test cart set of new inks...

The labor of filling small numbers of carts is very high.  And, as you
pointed out, the inventory problems would be major.  I have heard more than
once that MIS has a problem of insufficient space for more inventory.

If "bulk" ink were available in 2 oz. or 1 oz. bottles, would you and others
be able to fill the carts for testing?  I'm just thinking out loud here to
see if there is a way around this problem.  Any ideas?

Paul

Steadman,

You wrote:

>....can you recommend a good way for us to communicate [to MIS] our
>interest in the Sepia inks.

While MIS cannot answer all its e-mails, they might look at the subject
lines to see what they are about.

You -- and others -- can also call the 800 # and ask for it.

You could probably have a thread here and make it a de facto petition.

MIS's limits appear to be time and space.  If they know they have X order
for an ink they can mix from existing stock and the formula for which is
going to be given to them, why not?

Perhaps one way to limit MIS's concerns is if a new, untested mix is called
a "beta" ink so that MIS doesn't have to put it through a battery of tests
before mixing and selling it.  (Frankly, with the sepia mix there isn't much
that is going to happen.  It's just MIS VM K with some MIS Archival M & Y
added.)

Again, it seems like if there is sufficient demand, there ought to be a way
for MIS to respond to it.

Paul