Digital BW, The Print

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: lakecd 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 7:22 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W prints


  B&W prints in Photoshop 5.0(grayscale)printed on my refurbished Epson 
  1270 have a purple-magenta cast. When printed on an Epson 600 they 
  appear as normal B&W, as they also do on the monitor. Can adjustments 
  be made in Photoshop to correct this? Is there something wrong with 
  my 1270 printer? Prints are on Epson Glossy Photo Paper with Epson 
  standard inks. Any help would be appreciated  



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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kravit [mailto:michael.kravit@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 10:54 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W prints


The cast you are seeing is most probably due to an incorrect ink profile.
Having the inks profiled should help dramatically.

Regards,

Michael J. Kravit
Architect/Photographer
Boca Raton, Florida
www.kravit.net
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: lakecd
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 7:22 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W prints


  B&W prints in Photoshop 5.0(grayscale)printed on my refurbished Epson
  1270 have a purple-magenta cast. When printed on an Epson 600 they
  appear as normal B&W, as they also do on the monitor. Can adjustments
  be made in Photoshop to correct this? Is there something wrong with
  my 1270 printer? Prints are on Epson Glossy Photo Paper with Epson
  standard inks. Any help would be appreciated



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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David J. Bookbinder 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:19 PM
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W prints


  I have the same problem printing black and white prints using the built-in
  profiles. When I use the Epson Colorlife profile, the images come out
  more-or-less black and white. My understanding is that to get true black and
  white, you really need to use a black and white inkset (that replaces the
  colored inks with shades of gray), such as any of those mentioned often on
  this list, rather than the Epson colored inks.




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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: grady carter 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 2:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W prints



  Hello Michael Kravit,

  I am in Houston, Texas.  As large as this city is,
  there is nothing here of acquiring profiles or
  anything else as specific as B&W printing with inkjet
  printers...Would you please inform me as to how I can
  contact Profile City...I would love to print neutral
  B&W prints using my 1280 Epson printer using a G4 MAC,
  Photoshop 6, Epson Archival Matte and Lustre paper
  with Epson's regular dye inksets...Any information
  will be appreciated...Thank you.

  Grady Carter

  --- Michael Kravit <michael.kravit@...>
  wrote:
  > David,
  > 
  > Yes and no. With a well profiled inkset you can get
  > b/w prints with no color cast and little of no
  > crossover in the shadow areas.
  > 
  > For example, I recently had Profile City make me a
  > profile for the Epson 10k inks and H. Torchon.
  > Yesterday I printed 30 16x20 images for a
  > photographer friend. The prints were made on my
  > Epson 10000 using the hextone color inks. They were
  > perfectly neutral, no dots, no color cast. As I
  > mentioned, the key is a very clean profile.
  > 
  > Regards,
  > 
  > Michael J. Kravit
  > Architect/Photographer
  > Boca Raton, Florida
  > www.kravit.net
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: David J. Bookbinder 
  >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:19 PM
  >   Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W
  > prints
  > 
  > 
  >   I have the same problem printing black and white
  > prints using the built-in
  >   profiles. When I use the Epson Colorlife profile,
  > the images come out
  >   more-or-less black and white. My understanding is
  > that to get true black and
  >   white, you really need to use a black and white
  > inkset (that replaces the
  >   colored inks with shades of gray), such as any of
  > those mentioned often on
  >   this list, rather than the Epson colored inks.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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  > removed]
  > 
  > 


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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Michael Kravit [mailto:michael.kravit@...]
  Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 9:44 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W prints


  David,

  Yes and no. With a well profiled inkset you can get b/w prints with no
color cast and little of no crossover in the shadow areas.

  For example, I recently had Profile City make me a profile for the Epson
10k inks and H. Torchon. Yesterday I printed 30 16x20 images for a
photographer friend. The prints were made on my Epson 10000 using the
hextone color inks. They were perfectly neutral, no dots, no color cast. As
I mentioned, the key is a very clean profile.

  Regards,

  Michael J. Kravit
  Architect/Photographer
  Boca Raton, Florida
  www.kravit.net
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: David J. Bookbinder
    To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:19 PM
    Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W prints


    I have the same problem printing black and white prints using the
built-in
    profiles. When I use the Epson Colorlife profile, the images come out
    more-or-less black and white. My understanding is that to get true black
and
    white, you really need to use a black and white inkset (that replaces
the
    colored inks with shades of gray), such as any of those mentioned often
on
    this list, rather than the Epson colored inks.




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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Roark 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 7:47 PM
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W prints


  Mike,

  I'll be interested to hear what the color-inkset B&W print looks like 1 year
  from now.  All of the B&Ws I've done have shifted color and look bad.
  Also, with my 1160, the machine is apparently not stable enough hold a
  profile.  One day I'd get great looking B&Ws, then another day there would
  be visible cross-overs.  The high-end printers may at least avoid this
  problem.

  Paul
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Michael Kravit [mailto:michael.kravit@...]
    Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 9:44 AM
    To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W prints


    David,

    Yes and no. With a well profiled inkset you can get b/w prints with no
  color cast and little of no crossover in the shadow areas.

    For example, I recently had Profile City make me a profile for the Epson
  10k inks and H. Torchon. Yesterday I printed 30 16x20 images for a
  photographer friend. The prints were made on my Epson 10000 using the
  hextone color inks. They were perfectly neutral, no dots, no color cast. As
  I mentioned, the key is a very clean profile.

    Regards,

    Michael J. Kravit
    Architect/Photographer
    Boca Raton, Florida
    www.kravit.net
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: David J. Bookbinder
      To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:19 PM
      Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Purple cast on B&W prints


      I have the same problem printing black and white prints using the
  built-in
      profiles. When I use the Epson Colorlife profile, the images come out
      more-or-less black and white. My understanding is that to get true black
  and
      white, you really need to use a black and white inkset (that replaces
  the
      colored inks with shades of gray), such as any of those mentioned often
  on
      this list, rather than the Epson colored inks.




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