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2014-11-11 by larhymetime@...

Hello all,

I am fairly new to this group and to printing my own work.  I have been using a 1430 w/ inkjetcarts inks for the past 2 years.  I feel I have "outgrown" a 6 ink system and have been looking at the r3000.  I am a few months away from purchasing and am trying to get as much feedback as possible.  I would greatly appreciate any pros/cons.  Thanks and sorry if this is not the "right" question for this group. 

Thanks again
Lynn Reihman

Re: [Digital BW] r3000

2014-11-12 by Dr. Elliot Puritz

I am curious as to why you believe you have out-grown a 6 ink system?  My question might be better framed so as to ask is a 7,8, or 9 ink system capable of delivering better tonal separation and thus a "better print" then a 6 ink system?  If a 9 ink system is better then is a 12 ink system even better...

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> On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:34 AM, "larhymetime@yahoo.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I am fairly new to this group and to printing my own work. I have been using a 1430 w/ inkjetcarts inks for the past 2 years. I feel I have "outgrown" a 6 ink system and have been looking at the r3000. I am a few months away from purchasing and am trying to get as much feedback as possible. I would greatly appreciate any pros/cons. Thanks and sorry if this is not the "right" question for this group. 
> 
> Thanks again
> Lynn Reihman
> 
>

Re: [Digital BW] r3000

2014-11-13 by grimmieoldfart@...

Hi Lynn,

I once owned the 1400, R280, and currently own the R3000 & the Pro 3800. I just ordered a "Never Used" R280 off eBay this week. I do a lot of alternative B&W printing where I really want the 1.5 picoliter heads & 8x10 is the right size for the Exchange.

For the price point, stay with the 1430. I don't see any difference between the 1400 & R3000 features and actually got better use from the 1400 than I do with the R3000. A year ago I sold my R2400 & kicking myself for it - it was just an excellent color printer. I find the R3000 finicky. I sold the 1400 because I was headed overseas for a few years & didn't want it to waste. I should have purged it for storage.

There are 3 reasons to upgrade from the 1430;
For long term archival quality prints. It is a tested & known fact that pigments last much longer than dye inks. The goal here would be museum archival standards (dye vs pigment). In this case, get some 3rd party cartridges, pigment inks, do a couple of thorough cleanings, replace the dye cartridges with pigment inks, & re-profile everything. Invest in a good RIP & stay with the 1430.

Mass printing - your demand warrants a professional printer because you are wearing them.

For better performance & professional quality prints leave the desktop printers & move into professional printing with the 3880.

Point is, unless there is some compiling reason to switch from the 1430 to a "better" model, than save the money for paper & ink. If just you want a better printer, buy the 3880. Take it from someone who has scratched their heads after throwing money at the issue and getting the same result. Save the wallet by improving your skills.


Re: [Digital BW] r3000

2014-11-13 by Dr. Elliot Puritz

Well said. Thanks.

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> On Nov 12, 2014, at 7:33 PM, "grimmieoldfart@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Lynn,
> 
> 
> I once owned the 1400, R280, and currently own the R3000 & the Pro 3800.  I just ordered a "Never Used" R280 off eBay this week.  I do a lot of alternative B&W printing where I really want the 1.5 picoliter heads & 8x10 is the right size for the Exchange.
> 
> For the price point, stay with the 1430.  I don't see any difference between the 1400 & R3000 features and actually got better use from the 1400 than I do with the R3000.  A year ago I sold my R2400 & kicking myself for it - it was just an excellent color printer.  I find the R3000 finicky.  I sold the 1400 because I was headed overseas for a few years & didn't want it to waste.  I should have purged it for storage.
> 
> There are 3 reasons to upgrade from the 1430;
> For long term archival quality prints.  It is a tested & known fact that pigments last much longer than dye inks. The goal here would be museum archival standards (dye vs pigment).  In this case, get some 3rd party cartridges, pigment inks, do a couple of thorough cleanings, replace the dye cartridges with pigment inks, & re-profile everything.  Invest in a good RIP & stay with the 1430.
> 
> Mass printing - your demand warrants a professional printer because you are wearing them.
> 
> For better performance & professional quality prints leave the desktop printers & move into professional printing with the 3880.  
> 
> Point is, unless there is some compiling reason to switch from the 1430 to a "better" model, than save the money for paper & ink.  If just you want a better printer, buy the 3880.  Take it from someone who has scratched their heads after throwing money at the issue and getting the same result.  Save the wallet by improving your skills.
> 
> 
>

Re: r3000

2014-11-13 by Ben Schneider

I have been using the R3000 for two years.  Great printer, and no issues.  There are limitations with the printer, and I like my R1800 better for some things.

The ink cart size is a positive, but needing to purge a bunch of ink when switching from matte to photo black is waste!  Looking back, I think I would have liked the R2000 better.

The R3000 isn't designed for the good use of roll papers.  There are times when I need to make hundreds of 8x10 prints.  The R3000 does not work with 10 inch roll paper.  The spacing does not come out right.  The R1800 does that job well, but with frequent ink changes.  I never had any luck with CIS, or third party inks.

The R3000 is great with art weight paper, and the front sheet feed easy to use.  I have dedicated this printer for the use of printing matte surface, color, art prints.  I use a R1800 3K for B&W, and two other R1800s for printing glossy color.  I have two R800 which I use as office printers (stock less ink that way).

I will try a R2000 when a R1800 gives up.  I am wondering if the different ink set will make a difference.   I like the red and blue spot colors.  Since I am using these printers for things other then portraits, the red and blue works well for the work I do.  I do like the idea of the bigger ink cartridges in the R2000 though.

Ben

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Re: r3000

2014-11-13 by Kelly Healy

Only one reason I can see to switch is if you might want to expieriment with Paul Roark’s carbon- Hp ink set for more neutral prints and  custom QTR profiles.  I am using a 2880 (8 inks)l)  for that,  The advantage the 2880 has over the  over the 3000/3880 is the carts agitate while printing like the 1400. If you don’t do a lot of printing the carts need to be remove (3000/3880) and agitated regularly.   Otherwise the 1400 is by far the better choice.  I have two on line now. One for C6 and one to expieriment with. I have 4 unopened in reserve. I found 5 of  them at a post exchange clearance store. They had been sitting there for a long time so I got all 5 for $250, I plan to use them for a long time as they are an amazing printer.
Kelly

Re: [Digital BW] Re: r3000

2014-11-13 by lynn reihman

Wow, thanks for all the feed back so far.  I love it!  

I should have given some more info. about my reasons.  The main reason for wanting to get away from the 1430 is colored (mainly magenta)hues in shadow areas.  This is much more pronounced in b/w prints but comes through in color on low light shots.  This drives me insane!  I know this is b/c the 1430 prints these areas with light M & C.  So I really want the 3 blacks with r3000.   If there is a way around this w/ the 1430 I'd love to hear about it.   I've moved my color balance back and forth but always wind up magenta or slightly green.  

Please be kind as I am a novice but what do you mean by  investing in a "RIP"?  I haven't heard that one yet?

A little more background if it helps .. I work on a IPS Monitor and use Huey Pro for calibration.   I use ICC profiles with Red River and Ink Press Pro papers.  My buddy has even done a printer calibration on a few on my papers which helped match colors better but nothing really with the shadows.

Thanks again 
Lynn Reihman

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: r3000

2014-11-13 by Dr. Elliot Puritz

Hi Lynn:

If printing black and white consider a dedicated 1430 with either MIS or Cone inks.  I will let more experienced users comment.

Elliot

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> On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:31 AM, "lynn reihman larhymetime@yahoo.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Wow, thanks for all the feed back so far.  I love it! 
> 
> I should have given some more info. about my reasons.  The main reason for wanting to get away from the 1430 is colored (mainly magenta)hues in shadow areas.  This is much more pronounced in b/w prints but comes through in color on low light shots.  This drives me insane!  I know this is b/c the 1430 prints these areas with light M & C.  So I really want the 3 blacks with r3000.   If there is a way around this w/ the 1430 I'd love to hear about it.   I've moved my color balance back and forth but always wind up magenta or slightly green. 
> 
> Please be kind as I am a novice but what do you mean by  investing in a "RIP"?  I haven't heard that one yet?
> 
> A little more background if it helps .. I work on a IPS Monitor and use Huey Pro for calibration.   I use ICC profiles with Red River and Ink Press Pro papers.  My buddy has even done a printer calibration on a few on my papers which helped match colors better but nothing really with the shadows.
> 
> Thanks again 
> Lynn Reihman
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> From:"Kelly Healy kellyhealy@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date:Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:41 AM
> Subject:[Digital BW] Re: r3000
> 
> Only one reason I can see to switch is if you might want to expieriment with Paul Roark’s carbon- Hp ink set for more neutral prints and  custom QTR profiles.  I am using a 2880 (8 inks)l)  for that,  The advantage the 2880 has over the  over the 3000/3880 is the carts agitate while printing like the 1400. If you don’t do a lot of printing the carts need to be remove (3000/3880) and agitated regularly.  Otherwise the 1400 is by far the better choice.  I have two on line now. One for C6 and one to expieriment with. I have 4 unopened in reserve. I found 5 of  them at a post exchange clearance store. They had been sitting there for a long time so I got all 5 for $250, I plan to use them for a long time as they are an amazing printer.
> Kelly
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: r3000

2014-11-13 by grimmieoldfart@...

Lynn,

When you speak of magenta in the shadows I have to ask if you are using Epson ink or getting refills at the local refill joint like Walgreens or Cartridge World. More so when you say a friend has profiled your printer & paper. It reminds me of a very painful experience where I completely embarrassed myself only to learn better than using a 3rd party color ink refiller.). They can save you a lot of money when color management isn't critical. In photography, especially in portraiture, proper skin tone is critical.

A RIP (Raster Image Processor) is a program that is very much like Epson print driver on steroids in that it allows you to profile each ink channel individually- think separation & application. With Epson Print driver you have some control but with limitations but unable to chose where & when ink colors are applied. With a RIP like QImage or others, you have total control over each individual color.

My R3000 is a dedicated B&W printer based on Paul Roark's efforts & MIS Eboni inksets. Each channel is a black carbon ink or a dilution of (think M & LM or C & LC inks). We start with Black and dilute it to get different shades of black. But there is no color ink; no magenta, no cyan, no yellow, just black. A lot of us use a RIP named QuadTone RIP or QTR. This wonderful jewel allows us to create a profile that controls each ink channel exactly how we want it.

The problem you are experiencing is that you are getting green tints in B&W & magenta in the shadows. All very common problems that are caused by the Epson Print driver, not the printer. There is a slight chance the printer is at fault but doubtful. In most cases, properly created ICC profiles should resolve the problem unless your monitor is out of calibration & you are inadvertently adding those colors back in during editing. Also, perform a head cleaning & alignment followed by a print check. I don't expect it will change anything but these are prevent maintenance task that should be performed regularly that do affect print quality. Inspect each one for abnormalities & let us know if anything else is wrong. If you are using true Epson ink & not refilling at the local stores, my bet is the Epson print driver is at fault or your monitor is out of calibration.



Re: [Digital BW] r3000

2014-11-13 by Jacques Caron

Hi Lynn

I'm with Elliot. 
I'm printing with a 1430 and Eboni-6 inks. 

Followed closely the pdf from Paul Roark and listened closely to Mr.Harrington advices ( bought both QTR and QTR Print Tool - for Mac). Now, almost two years later, I'm still witthout a clog or a misfired print. Love the results, love the arm tone i'm getting with Epson Cold Press.

It's a great combination. Since I'm not the adventurous kind, I did not do specials experiments. The minute the results were what I had in mind, i stopped the measurements and started printing.

Good luck

Jacques

Le 2014-11-13 à 10:43, 'Dr. Elliot Puritz' drpuritz@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

> 
> Hi Lynn:
> 
> If printing black and white consider a dedicated 1430 with either MIS or Cone inks.  I will let more experienced users comment.
> 
> Elliot
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:31 AM, "lynn reihman larhymetime@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
>>  
>> 
>> Wow, thanks for all the feed back so far.  I love it! 
>> 
>> I should have given some more info. about my reasons.  The main reason for wanting to get away from the 1430 is colored (mainly magenta)hues in shadow areas.  This is much more pronounced in b/w prints but comes through in color on low light shots.  This drives me insane!  I know this is b/c the 1430 prints these areas with light M & C.  So I really want the 3 blacks with r3000.   If there is a way around this w/ the 1430 I'd love to hear about it.   I've moved my color balance back and forth but always wind up magenta or slightly green. 
>> 
>> Please be kind as I am a novice but what do you mean by  investing in a "RIP"?  I haven't heard that one yet?
>> 
>> A little more background if it helps .. I work on a IPS Monitor and use Huey Pro for calibration.   I use ICC profiles with Red River and Ink Press Pro papers.  My buddy has even done a printer calibration on a few on my papers which helped match colors better but nothing really with the shadows.
>> 
>> Thanks again 
>> Lynn Reihman
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> From:"Kelly Healy kellyhealy@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date:Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:41 AM
>> Subject:[Digital BW] Re: r3000
>> 
>> Only one reason I can see to switch is if you might want to expieriment with Paul Roark’s carbon- Hp ink set for more neutral prints and  custom QTR profiles.  I am using a 2880 (8 inks)l)  for that,  The advantage the 2880 has over the  over the 3000/3880 is the carts agitate while printing like the 1400. If you don’t do a lot of printing the carts need to be remove (3000/3880) and agitated regularly.  Otherwise the 1400 is by far the better choice.  I have two on line now. One for C6 and one to expieriment with. I have 4 unopened in reserve. I found 5 of  them at a post exchange clearance store. They had been sitting there for a long time so I got all 5 for $250, I plan to use them for a long time as they are an amazing printer.
>> Kelly
>> 
>> ------------------------------------
>> 
>> ------------------------------------
>> 
>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated.
>> 
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
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>> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page.
>> 
>> Please follow these basic guidelines:
>> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short.
>> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice.
>> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership.
>> - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” in the Files section:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
>> 
>> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
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Re: r3000

2014-11-14 by richard@...

There are two options that might make the most sense for you. You could go with a K3 ultra chrome like the 2880, or R3000 and use the three pigment inks and the color inks as toners and still have the ability to print with color, or stick with the smaller and more affordable Epson 1430 with the MIS EB-6 inks for a dedicated black and white printer.

At the studio, I personally use a 9900 for color and larger black and white prints (using QTR and custom profiles), and then a 3800 with Cone K6 inks for smaller format black and white glossy/matte printing. I just bought a 1430 with the MIS EB-6 inks for printing at home use, and to test out the system for some writing I am doing. I am really really happy with the results from the little Epson 1430 and the EB-6 inks with my custom k6 profiles. It seems to handle any paper I throw at it from thick 310 gsm watercolor papers to thinner 70 gsm Japanese Kozo papers and everything in between.

Before making your purchase, do a little reading on Quad Tone Rip. Custom profiles for QTR are not the same as custom ICC profiles, and involved customizing the the amount of ink that is laid down by each channel and the overall linearization. That might be all too much right now, but there are some prebuilt profiles to get you started.

The reason I mention it is I think novices deserve to be able to make the best print possible. Some of these things like printing with quad tone rip and 4 to 6 dilutions of black ink might seem a little more advanced, but it is pretty easy to use and will allow you to make prints head and shoulders above what is possible with the Epson inks and driver.

Richard Boutwell


Re: [Digital BW] Re: r3000

2014-11-14 by lynn reihman

I am not using Epson inks.  As I mentioned before I'm using a refillable ink system form InkJetCarts.  I will be reading up on QTR and Paul's website.  I read his "general" site earlier but need to follow all the links, PDF's as well.  I'm coming around to the idea of making the 1430 a b/w only printer just not sure about it having to be matte only as well.  From what I've found, so far anyway, is if I dedicate it to b/w the system can only print on matte papers.  Maybe I'm wrong, still fumbling a little.
Anyway I have a lot of reading to do and try to keep my head from spinning!

Thanks for all the info again, keep it coming I'll keep sponging it up : )
Lynn Reihmanwww.flickr.com/photos/reihman/ 
 

     On Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:30 PM, "richard@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
   

     There are two options that might make the most sense for you. You could go with a K3 ultra chrome like the 2880, or R3000 and use the three pigment inks and the color inks as toners and still have the ability to print with color, or stick with the smaller and more affordable Epson 1430 with the MIS EB-6 inks for a dedicated black and white printer.
At the studio, I personally use a 9900 for color and larger black and white prints (using QTR and custom profiles), and then a 3800 with Cone K6 inks for smaller format black and white glossy/matte printing. I just bought a 1430 with the MIS EB-6 inks for printing at home use, and to test out the system for some writing I am doing. I am really really happy with the results from the little Epson 1430 and the EB-6 inks with my custom k6 profiles. It seems to handle any paper I throw at it from thick 310 gsm watercolor papers to thinner 70 gsm Japanese Kozo papers and everything in between. 
Before making your purchase, do a little reading on Quad Tone Rip. Custom profiles for QTR are not the same as custom ICC profiles, and involved customizing the the amount of ink that is laid down by each channel and the overall linearization. That might be all too much right now, but there are some prebuilt profiles to get you started. 
The reason I mention it is I think novices deserve to be able to make the best print possible. Some of these things like printing with quad tone rip and 4 to 6 dilutions of black ink might seem a little more advanced, but it is pretty easy to use and will allow you to make prints head and shoulders above what is possible with the Epson inks and driver.

Richard Boutwell

Re: [Digital BW] r3000

2014-11-14 by Dr. Elliot Puritz

Jacques:

I am a bit curious. Do you remove your ebony inks when you are 
not printing for an extended period – say three or four weeks?

I have always removed the Cone inks when I am away for a period of time. If not there a tendency for one or more to channels to misfire-using the 2880. course it is a simple matter to clean the lines on the 2880

Elliot

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> On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:53 PM, "Jacques Caron jacques.caron@videotron.qc.ca [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Lynn
> 
> 
> I'm with Elliot. 
> I'm printing with a 1430 and Eboni-6 inks. 
> 
> Followed closely the pdf from Paul Roark and listened closely to Mr.Harrington advices ( bought both QTR and QTR Print Tool - for Mac). Now, almost two years later, I'm still witthout a clog or a misfired print. Love the results, love the arm tone i'm getting with Epson Cold Press.
> 
> It's a great combination. Since I'm not the adventurous kind, I did not do specials experiments. The minute the results were what I had in mind, i stopped the measurements and started printing.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Jacques
> 
> Le 2014-11-13 à 10:43, 'Dr. Elliot Puritz' drpuritz@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Lynn:
>> 
>> If printing black and white consider a dedicated 1430 with either MIS or Cone inks.  I will let more experienced users comment.
>> 
>> Elliot
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:31 AM, "lynn reihman larhymetime@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Wow, thanks for all the feed back so far.  I love it! 
>>> 
>>> I should have given some more info. about my reasons.  The main reason for wanting to get away from the 1430 is colored (mainly magenta)hues in shadow areas.  This is much more pronounced in b/w prints but comes through in color on low light shots.  This drives me insane!  I know this is b/c the 1430 prints these areas with light M & C.  So I really want the 3 blacks with r3000.   If there is a way around this w/ the 1430 I'd love to hear about it.   I've moved my color balance back and forth but always wind up magenta or slightly green. 
>>> 
>>> Please be kind as I am a novice but what do you mean by  investing in a "RIP"?  I haven't heard that one yet?
>>> 
>>> A little more background if it helps .. I work on a IPS Monitor and use Huey Pro for calibration.   I use ICC profiles with Red River and Ink Press Pro papers.  My buddy has even done a printer calibration on a few on my papers which helped match colors better but nothing really with the shadows.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again 
>>> Lynn Reihman
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> From:"Kelly Healy kellyhealy@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date:Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:41 AM
>>> Subject:[Digital BW] Re: r3000
>>> 
>>> Only one reason I can see to switch is if you might want to expieriment with Paul Roark’s carbon- Hp ink set for more neutral prints and  custom QTR profiles.  I am using a 2880 (8 inks)l)  for that,  The advantage the 2880 has over the  over the 3000/3880 is the carts agitate while printing like the 1400. If you don’t do a lot of printing the carts need to be remove (3000/3880) and agitated regularly.  Otherwise the 1400 is by far the better choice.  I have two on line now. One for C6 and one to expieriment with. I have 4 unopened in reserve. I found 5 of  them at a post exchange clearance store. They had been sitting there for a long time so I got all 5 for $250, I plan to use them for a long time as they are an amazing printer.
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated.
>>> 
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>>> 
>>> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page.
>>> 
>>> Please follow these basic guidelines:
>>> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short.
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Re: [Digital BW] r3000

2014-11-14 by Jacques Caron

Hi Elliot

Let me say first that my 1430 is always "on". Recently I went to Argentina (four weeks) and I put the printer to "off". Came back, put the printer "on" made a nozzle check. Everything went fine and I must go with Paul Roark's saying : Ebony 6 rarely clogs. Pigment inks are not prone to clogging.

What I would like to know is "Do I have to shake the cartridges?" Fortunately for me, my 1430 is still printing flawlessly (although there is a minor glitch that arise on some prints- a bit of ink is spilled at the end on the very far border of the paper).

Aside that, I'm pretty happy with the printer. The only time that made me cautious was not a blocked nozzle but simply air in the cartridge. I let the printer sit for 24 hours (off) and the next morning, everything was back to normal.

Hope this helps

Jacques
Le 2014-11-14 à 10:39, "'Dr. Elliot Puritz' drpuritz@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :


Jacques:

I am a bit curious. Do you remove your ebony inks when you are
not printing for an extended period – say three or four weeks?

I have always removed the Cone inks when I am away for a period of time. If not there a tendency for one or more to channels to misfire-using the 2880. course it is a simple matter to clean the lines on the 2880

Elliot

Sent from my iPhone

Jacques Caron

Re: [Digital BW] r3000

2014-11-14 by Dr. Elliot Puritz

Thanks Jacques.

The ink on the end of the paper might be due to the edge of the paper hitting the print head .  I had similar issues with the 2880.  Jon suggested being certain that the paper was flat before feeding. Hence if there are any doubts I gently straighten the paper by drawing the paper edge over the end of a table .  The ink spots on the edge of the paper are no longer an issue. 

 As part of my printer maintenance I loaded a spare set of carts for the 1430 with the MIS flush solution. Part of my maintenance is periodically running a cleaning cycle with the flush solutions.

Elliot 

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 14, 2014, at 9:35 AM, "Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Elliot
> 
> 
> Let me say first that my 1430 is always "on". Recently I went to Argentina (four weeks) and I put the printer to "off". Came back, put the printer "on" made a nozzle check. Everything went fine and I must go with Paul Roark's saying : Ebony 6 rarely clogs. Pigment inks are not prone to clogging.
> 
> What I would like to know is "Do I have to shake the cartridges?" Fortunately for me, my 1430 is still printing flawlessly (although there is a minor glitch that arise on some prints- a bit of ink is spilled at the end on the very far border of the paper).
> 
> Aside that, I'm pretty happy with the printer. The only time that made me cautious was not a blocked nozzle but simply air in the cartridge. I let the printer sit for 24 hours (off) and the next morning, everything was back to normal.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Jacques
>> Le 2014-11-14 à 10:39, "'Dr. Elliot Puritz' drpuritz@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jacques:
>> 
>> I am a bit curious. Do you remove your ebony inks when you are 
>> not printing for an extended period – say three or four weeks?
>> 
>> I have always removed the Cone inks when I am away for a period of time. If not there a tendency for one or more to channels to misfire-using the 2880. course it is a simple matter to clean the lines on the 2880
>> 
>> Elliot
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Jacques Caron
> Photographe
> jacques.caron@...
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [Digital BW] r3000

2014-11-14 by Jacques Caron

Hi

Thanks for the hints! Surely you're right about the paper curl. I can see that if my box of paper is half full, it tends to curl a bit; when I print, at the end, I hear a small click so the head must contact the edge.

From now on, I'll add a sheet or two of aluminum stock in the box so the paper is kept flat.

Thanks again

Jacques
Le 2014-11-14 à 13:02, "'Dr. Elliot Puritz' drpuritz@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

> 
> Thanks Jacques.
> 
> The ink on the end of the paper might be due to the edge of the paper hitting the print head .  I had similar issues with the 2880.  Jon suggested being certain that the paper was flat before feeding. Hence if there are any doubts I gently straighten the paper by drawing the paper edge over the end of a table .  The ink spots on the edge of the paper are no longer an issue. 
> 
>  As part of my printer maintenance I loaded a spare set of carts for the 1430 with the MIS flush solution. Part of my maintenance is periodically running a cleaning cycle with the flush solutions.
> 
> Elliot 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 14, 2014, at 9:35 AM, "Jacques Caron jacques.caron@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
>>  
>> Hi Elliot
>> 
>> 
>> Let me say first that my 1430 is always "on". Recently I went to Argentina (four weeks) and I put the printer to "off". Came back, put the printer "on" made a nozzle check. Everything went fine and I must go with Paul Roark's saying : Ebony 6 rarely clogs. Pigment inks are not prone to clogging.
>> 
>> What I would like to know is "Do I have to shake the cartridges?" Fortunately for me, my 1430 is still printing flawlessly (although there is a minor glitch that arise on some prints- a bit of ink is spilled at the end on the very far border of the paper).
>> 
>> Aside that, I'm pretty happy with the printer. The only time that made me cautious was not a blocked nozzle but simply air in the cartridge. I let the printer sit for 24 hours (off) and the next morning, everything was back to normal.
>> 
>> Hope this helps
>> 
>> Jacques
>> Le 2014-11-14 à 10:39, "'Dr. Elliot Puritz' drpuritz@cfl.rr.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint]" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Jacques:
>>> 
>>> I am a bit curious. Do you remove your ebony inks when you are 
>>> not printing for an extended period – say three or four weeks?
>>> 
>>> I have always removed the Cone inks when I am away for a period of time. If not there a tendency for one or more to channels to misfire-using the 2880. course it is a simple matter to clean the lines on the 2880
>>> 
>>> Elliot
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> Jacques Caron
>> Photographe
>> jacques.caron@videotron.qc.ca
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Jacques Caron
Photographe
jacques.caron@videotron.qc.ca

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