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Hand Made Self Publish

2016-04-04 by Lew Schwartz

Can anyone share experience/thoughts re a diy books using a comb binding machine to put pages together?

Thanks!

eg Binding Machine

-Lew Schwartz

Re: Hand Made Self Publish

2016-04-04 by andrey@...

Lew, I've had a local print shop make a calendar like this, and the main thing to be careful about is leaving enough margin space so the machine won't cut into your photo. This was on glossy paper coming off their industrial color printer, and I'm happy enough with it that I'd do it again for a portfolio book with my own prints and paper.

It doesn't look fancy, and kind of resembles one of those corporate reports, but it's a cheap and fast way to go.

Re: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

2016-04-04 by baffin

In my opinion comb bindings looks cheap. Why sweat over the images, work to get perfect prints on archival paper and use a binding system that you see used for cheap annual reports.

The thin spiral binding look a bit classier, but not much. I have talked to some book binderies that do very small runs, but they are very expensive. If your proposed market can can handle the cost, it might be good for you.

Gary

www.garyallenbrownphoto.com
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Subject: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

  

Can anyone share experience/thoughts re a diy books using a comb binding machine to put pages together? 

Thanks!


eg Binding Machine


-Lew Schwartz

Re: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

2016-04-04 by Jim Coffee

Take a look at the Lulu.com calendars. I've used them for about 6 years and am pleased. Low volume.
Depends on what you are trying to do. If you want just one...purchasing just one from Lulu might be very cost effective. (about $11.00 without coupons).


-Jim Coffee-
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On 4 April 2016 at 12:52, 'baffin' baffin@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

In my opinion comb bindings looks cheap. Why sweat over the images, work to get perfect prints on archival paper and use a binding system that you see used for cheap annual reports.
The thin spiral binding look a bit classier, but not much. I have talked to some book binderies that do very small runs, but they are very expensive. If your proposed market can can handle the cost, it might be good for you.
Gary
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 8:20 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

Can anyone share experience/thoughts re a diy books using a comb binding machine to put pages together?
Thanks!
eg Binding Machine
-Lew Schwartz


RE: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

2016-04-04 by Scott Hendershot

I have experience using a ChannelBind machine from

 

http://channelbind.com/

 

They sell reasonably nice cover stock that has a metal channel built into the spine. You insert your pages and the machine squeezes the metal channel in the spine securing the pages. It is best with more supple types of paper. I did a few hundred art books this way. My favorite paper for this was called zeppelin but I don’t recall the vendor.

 

Let me know if you would like any more details.

 

Scott Hendershot
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Can anyone share experience/thoughts re a diy books using a comb binding machine to put pages together?

 

Thanks!

 

eg Binding Machine <http://www.staples.com/Binding-Machines/cat_CL161082> 


 

-Lew Schwartz

Re: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

2016-04-04 by Peter Marquis-Kyle

On 4/04/2016 1:20 PM, Lew Schwartz lew1716@... 
[DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] wrote:
>
>
> Can anyone share experience/thoughts re a diy books using a comb binding
> machine to put pages together?

I agree with others who have commented that plastic comb binding looks 
cheap and nasty.

I prefer wire binding -- do a Google image search for "Renz binder". I 
have a small hand-operated desktop binding machine of this type, but you 
may be able to find a local business that is equipped to do this work as 
a service.

The pages of a wire-bound book open out flat, so the images on the page 
don't hide in a gutter. I think this is a neat and servicable form of 
binding, suitable for a one-off item or for a short run.

--

Peter Marquis-Kyle

Re: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

2016-04-05 by Lew Schwartz

Looks interesting, but, as you say, seems to require a thinner paper. The advandage of the binding machine is that things lie flat. I'm not aware of any inkjet paper that would take kindly to repeated bending at the spine.


-Lew Schwartz
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:26 PM, 'Scott Hendershot' nospam@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I have experience using a ChannelBind machine from

http://channelbind.com/

They sell reasonably nice cover stock that has a metal channel built into the spine. You insert your pages and the machine squeezes the metal channel in the spine securing the pages. It is best with more supple types of paper. I did a few hundred art books this way. My favorite paper for this was called zeppelin but I don’t recall the vendor.

Let me know if you would like any more details.

Scott Hendershot

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Subject: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

Can anyone share experience/thoughts re a diy books using a comb binding machine to put pages together?

Thanks!

eg Binding Machine

-Lew Schwartz


RE: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

2016-04-09 by Scott Hendershot

The Red River Zepplin paper is a 45 lb semigloss. I have never seen another ink jet paper like it. It is the perfect paper for an art book project if you are binding it in something like the channel bind. The projects I used this for worked out very well. Many years ago I participated in a few of the Black and White print exchanges. I bound the prints I received into books with the channelbind machine. However I had to glue an archival strip to the edge of each print and that strip was the part that fit into the channel. It’s the only way I know to bind heavy papers like that.

 

http://www.redrivercatalog.com/browse/double-sided-photo-inkjet-papers-2-sided.html
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Looks interesting, but, as you say, seems to require a thinner paper. The advandage of the binding machine is that things lie flat. I'm not aware of any inkjet paper that would take kindly to repeated bending at the spine.




 

-Lew Schwartz

 

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:26 PM, 'Scott Hendershot' nospam@... <mailto:nospam@...>  [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:

  

I have experience using a ChannelBind machine from

 

http://channelbind.com/

 

They sell reasonably nice cover stock that has a metal channel built into the spine. You insert your pages and the machine squeezes the metal channel in the spine securing the pages. It is best with more supple types of paper. I did a few hundred art books this way. My favorite paper for this was called zeppelin but I don’t recall the vendor.

 

Let me know if you would like any more details.

 

Scott Hendershot

 

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Subject: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

 

  

Can anyone share experience/thoughts re a diy books using a comb binding machine to put pages together?

 

Thanks!

 

eg Binding Machine <http://www.staples.com/Binding-Machines/cat_CL161082> 


 

-Lew Schwartz

Re: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

2016-04-12 by Lew Schwartz

That looks really interesting, Scott. I hadn't even thought of printing on both sides. What was the archival binding strip material that you used? And, did you have to double it over to make up for the fact that the material was thinner than the paper?


-Lew Schwartz

On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 8:37 AM, 'Scott Hendershot' nospam@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The Red River Zepplin paper is a 45 lb semigloss. I have never seen another ink jet paper like it. It is the perfect paper for an art book project if you are binding it in something like the channel bind. The projects I used this for worked out very well. Many years ago I participated in a few of the Black and White print exchanges. I bound the prints I received into books with the channelbind machine. However I had to glue an archival strip to the edge of each print and that strip was the part that fit into the channel. It’s the only way I know to bind heavy papers like that.

http://www.redrivercatalog.com/browse/double-sided-photo-inkjet-papers-2-sided.html

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Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:32 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

Looks interesting, but, as you say, seems to require a thinner paper. The advandage of the binding machine is that things lie flat. I'm not aware of any inkjet paper that would take kindly to repeated bending at the spine.


-Lew Schwartz

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:26 PM, 'Scott Hendershot' nospam@scotthendershot.com [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I have experience using a ChannelBind machine from

http://channelbind.com/

They sell reasonably nice cover stock that has a metal channel built into the spine. You insert your pages and the machine squeezes the metal channel in the spine securing the pages. It is best with more supple types of paper. I did a few hundred art books this way. My favorite paper for this was called zeppelin but I don’t recall the vendor.

Let me know if you would like any more details.

Scott Hendershot

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:20 PM
To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>; adobe_lightroom <Adobe_Lightroom@yahoogroups.com>; DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Hand Made Self Publish

Can anyone share experience/thoughts re a diy books using a comb binding machine to put pages together?

Thanks!

eg Binding Machine

-Lew Schwartz


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