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Glossy Carbon Variable Tone inkset -- Epson R1800, R1900, R2000

Glossy Carbon Variable Tone inkset -- Epson R1800, R1900, R2000

2016-09-19 by roark.paul@...

I have had several inquiries about the use of a Glossy Carbon Variable Tone inkset in the Epson R1800, R1900 and R2000. This would be similar to what I'm using in my 1430 (and also 7800, but that's a more unique ink setup).


I do not have any of the R1800 - R2000 series printers to test this on. However, the inkset ought to work well in all of them. You'd be able to take advantage both the MK and PK installed, as well as using the Gloss Optimizer for that, if glossy is your main focus and the papers you use show a significant glossy differential. You could also use that spot for a yellow ink. I have used yellow with brightened paper to make the borders match the mat board better and also to tone down the OBAs in all areas except for those that are centers of interest; it's another tool we can use. Digital internegative people might find the yellow useful for their alt process negatives also, as the Yellow has the same UV blocking as the PK.


To assist those setting up one of the R1800 - 2000 serious, I've posted my suggestions at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Glossy-Carbon-VT-1800.pdf .


As people give me feedback as to what works, I'll try to incorporate that feedback in the PDF.


Note with respect to ink order that I recommend the Light Blue Toner be in the Y position. Then the dilute carbons follow the color wheel clockwise. This facilitates Epson driver printing and control with Photoshop curves and ICCs.


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Re: Glossy Carbon Variable Tone inkset -- Epson R1800, R1900, R2000

2016-09-20 by brian_downunda@...

The R1900 is physically virtually identical to the R2880, other than it uses a different OEM inkset, doesn't have a front sheet feed option, and has the silver and black trim in a different arrangement. So whatever works on the R2880 should work in the R1900. The only catch is working out the ink placement correspondence, given the different OEM inksets. The R2000 is a minor upgrade of the R1900, and so the same comments apply. (I have all three printers.)

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Glossy Carbon Variable Tone inkset -- Epson R1800, R1900, R2000

2016-09-22 by Paul Roark

>; The R1900 is physically virtually identical to the R2880, other than it uses a different OEM inkset ...

Actually, I consider them in two different families of Epson printers. The R1800 - 2000 do not have the LM and LC and add two additional colors, as well as a gloss optimizer. As such, the Epson drivers are quite different. The R1800 - 2000 also have 1.5 PL minimum drop sizes as opposed to the 3 pl for the 2880. This smaller drop size is similar to the 1430 and allows denser inks to be used in the highlights without showing dots.

While I do not have any of this family of printers any more, I had and set up an R1800 with Eboni-6 among other inksets. The Eboni-6 model is what I based my recommendation on regarding the glossy carbon variable tone inkset, thought the Eboni-6 setup on the 1800 was not a variable tone.

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On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 3:12 PM, brian_downunda@... [DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint] <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The R1900 is physically virtually identical to the R2880, other than it uses a different OEM inkset, doesn't have a front sheet feed option, and has the silver and black trim in a different arrangement. So whatever works on the R2880 should work in the R1900. The only catch is working out the ink placement correspondence, given the different OEM inksets. The R2000 is a minor upgrade of the R1900, and so the same comments apply. (I have all three printers.)


Re: Glossy Carbon Variable Tone inkset -- Epson R1800, R1900, R2000

2016-09-23 by brian_downunda@...

From a colour ink perspective they're obviously in different families, one is K3 and one is hi-gloss. But the R1900 and R2000 can use x880 QTR curves (once you reorder the channels in the .quad file to match the QTR PPD file), so from a B&W perspective I regard them as being in the same family. They even share the same service manual and nearly all the same parts. I did say "physically identical". The different droplet size is not something that I've noticed with Piezography, but it sounds like you may if you're mixing your own inks.

I guess my point was that given some of us are using remapped K7/K6/P2 x8880 Piezography QTR curves on the R1900 and R2000, I'd have thought that you could do the same with Eboni6.


---In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, <roark.paul@...> wrote :

Actually, I consider them in two different families of Epson printers. The R1800 - 2000 do not have the LM and LC and add two additional colors, as well as a gloss optimizer. As such, the Epson drivers are quite different. The R1800 - 2000 also have 1.5 PL minimum drop sizes as opposed to the 3 pl for the 2880.

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