Re: [Digital BW] Somerset Velvet Radiant White -- warming
2002-03-14 by Jerry Olson
Paul, I have quite a bit of somerset velvet paper, uncoated. Is there any way to get a good black on this paper? Jerry
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Re: [Digital BW] Somerset Velvet Radiant White -- warming
Re: [Digital BW] Somerset Velvet Radiant White -- warming
2002-03-14 by Paul Roark
Jerry, >I have quite a bit of Somerset velvet paper, uncoated. >Is there any way to get a good black on this paper? I doubt it. I've never seen good blacks. In light of the fade/warm test results (essentially the same as Epson Archival Matte and Eclipse Satine), I just see no reason to use this paper, unless, perhaps one wants a soft look. Paul
Re: [Digital BW] Somerset Velvet Radiant White -- warming
2002-03-15 by James Klebau
Hi Jerry, I have found that somerset velvet -appears- to have a "good" black when the blacks in the image are small areas surrounded by much larger, much lighter areas..... snow scenes and branches against the sky, for instance. I didn't intend for this answer to replace the better tech answer that Paul can supply. Just thought it could help on a different level. I had a lot of s.v. on hand when I acquired some Hahnemueler Photo Rag, and was able to get some use out of using this approach. Jim
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On Thursday, March 14, 2002, at 12:25 PM, Jerry Olson wrote: > Paul, I have quite a bit of somerset velvet paper, uncoated. Is there > any way to get a > good black on this paper? > > Jerry > > > >
Re: [Digital BW] Somerset Velvet Radiant White -- warming
2002-03-15 by Jerry Olson
Jim, I got 25 sheets of Royal Rennaissance paper from Media street, which they say is Photo Rag 308. It prints beautifully, but is awfully thin. Thinner than the Epson Archival matte. Do you find this to be so also? The ENHANCED somerset velvet is ok for the images you describe. but not the regular. However, for high key only photos like a real light waterfall, or cloudscape, it does ok, so long as there are no deep blacks. Jerry James Klebau wrote:
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> Hi Jerry, > > I have found that somerset velvet -appears- to have a "good" black when > the blacks in the image are small areas surrounded by much larger, much > lighter areas..... snow scenes and branches against the sky, for > instance. I didn't intend for this answer to replace the better tech > answer that Paul can supply. Just thought it could help on a different > level. > > I had a lot of s.v. on hand when I acquired some Hahnemueler Photo Rag, > and was able to get some use out of using this approach. > > Jim > > On Thursday, March 14, 2002, at 12:25 PM, Jerry Olson wrote: > > > Paul, I have quite a bit of somerset velvet paper, uncoated. Is there > > any way to get a > > good black on this paper? > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Digital BW] Somerset Velvet Radiant White -- warming
2002-03-15 by Todd Flashner
> Jim, I got 25 sheets of Royal Rennaissance paper from Media street, which they > say is Photo Rag 308. It prints beautifully, but is awfully > thin. Thinner than the Epson Archival matte. Do you find this to be so also? Jerry, I don't think even the 188 (or whatever that weight is) is as thin as EAM, let alone the 308. The 308 is a nice sheet. Not stiff, but weighty. They must have sent you the thinner weight. Todd
Re: [Digital BW] Somerset Velvet Radiant White -- warming
2002-03-15 by James Klebau
The Photo Rag I have came from Inkjet Mall and the re-labeled doesn't tell the weight of the paper. It must be the lightest weight version. But its light weight has not been a problem for me. (It does buckle sometimes when I'm taking it out of the fix and putting it into the wash - sorry, couldn't resist.) Yup - that sommerset velvet just has to wait for the right image....either high key or, like I said, ones that by their local contrast give the impression a good black. Jim
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On Thursday, March 14, 2002, at 05:28 PM, Jerry Olson wrote: > Jim, I got 25 sheets of Royal Rennaissance paper from Media street, > which they say is Photo Rag 308. It prints beautifully, but is awfully > thin. Thinner than the Epson Archival matte. Do you find this to be so > also? > The ENHANCED somerset velvet is ok for the images you describe. but not > the regular. However, for high key only photos like a real light > waterfall, or cloudscape, it does ok, so long as there are no deep > blacks. > > Jerry > > James Klebau wrote: > >> Hi Jerry, >> >> I have found that somerset velvet -appears- to have a "good" black when >> the blacks in the image are small areas surrounded by much larger, much >> lighter areas..... snow scenes and branches against the sky, for >> instance. I didn't intend for this answer to replace the better tech >> answer that Paul can supply. Just thought it could help on a different >> level. >> >> I had a lot of s.v. on hand when I acquired some Hahnemueler Photo Rag, >> and was able to get some use out of using this approach. >> >> Jim >> >> On Thursday, March 14, 2002, at 12:25 PM, Jerry Olson wrote: >> >>> Paul, I have quite a bit of somerset velvet paper, uncoated. Is there >>> any way to get a >>> good black on this paper? >>> >>> Jerry >>> >>> >>>
Re: [Digital BW] Somerset Velvet Radiant White -- warming
2002-03-15 by James Klebau
Jerry, From Tod's post, I figure I must have the 188. Does anyone know the gram equivalent of 60 pound paper? Jim
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On Thursday, March 14, 2002, at 05:37 PM, Todd Flashner wrote: >> Jim, I got 25 sheets of Royal Rennaissance paper from Media street, >> which they >> say is Photo Rag 308. It prints beautifully, but is awfully >> thin. Thinner than the Epson Archival matte. Do you find this to be >> so also? > > Jerry, > > I don't think even the 188 (or whatever that weight is) is as thin as > EAM, > let alone the 308. The 308 is a nice sheet. Not stiff, but weighty. They > must have sent you the thinner weight. > > Todd >