Digital BW, The Print

Della,

I haven't seen or probably haven't noticed this one. Can you forward a
couple to me off list?

Thanks,
Martin

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In a message dated 3/22/2002 9:55:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
dellaellingson@... writes:


> Please someone explain why this is appearing on some
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I'd like to see this one go to court! First , they email you improperly, then 
the onus is on you to notify them!  Some lawyer is collecting fees for 
creating this nonsense, and he deserves to be disbarred for taking money from 
the client who paid him to write this illegal dribble. And these people 
should be taken off this list for bothering us with inane garbage.
George Kunze


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Quoting toomagenta@...:

> <html><body>
> 
> 
>  I'd like to see this one go to court! First , they email you improperly,
> then <BR>
> the onus is on you to notify them!  Some lawyer is collecting fees
> for <BR>
> creating this nonsense, and he deserves to be disbarred for taking money
> from <BR>
> the client who paid him to write this illegal dribble. And these people
> <BR>
> should be taken off this list for bothering us with inane garbage.<BR>
> George Kunze<BR>


George,

I will respond directly...  First of all, it's in my sig for some messages.  
Second, it is STANDARD legal language, check any fax or e-mail from an attorney,
Third, to speak of "inane garbage"  -- there seem to be two posters who felt 
strongly, one way or another about the sig.  One who seemed worried that it was 
something from Yahoo!  etc. and 'you,' who seemed to just feel the need to 
waste bandwidth over a non-issue.  I won't stoop to the level of engaging with 
you in a flame war on-list, but if you want to contimue this off-list, I am 
more than willing to cross swords with you..  But, one piece of advice, go get 
a law degree, or at least spend some time in law school, before you pontificate 
and offer advice on the law..  Unless you are a member of the BAR somewhere, 
hat you may do in offering legal advice publicly is make YOURSELF liable for 
any damages assessed against third parties who rely upon it, not to mention the 
possibility of being prosecuted for pratcticing law without a license.. 

Just a friendly warning... Your mileage may vary.

Keith

List-owners take note, my X-ray vision detects another dreaded "Hurricane
Foveon" on the horizon.  List readers should concentrate on printing for
several days and avoid email at all costs.

Bill Morse
PhotoProspect
Cambridge, MA 02139

PS it's truly amazing how (when you're not one of the combatants) you can
see these things gathering strength, swirling around, until finally it
breaks out and suddenly we have 50 messages in the in-box!  LOL

on 3/23/02 12:39 PM, editor@... wrote:

Quoting toomagenta@...:

> <html><body>
> 
> 
>  I'd like to see this one go to court! First , they email you improperly,
> then <BR>
> the onus is on you to notify them!� Some lawyer is collecting fees
> for <BR>
> creating this nonsense, and he deserves to be disbarred for taking money
> from <BR>
> the client who paid him to write this illegal dribble. And these people
> <BR>
> should be taken off this list for bothering us with inane garbage.<BR>
> George Kunze<BR>


George,

I will respond directly...  First of all, it's in my sig for some messages.
Second, it is STANDARD legal language, check any fax or e-mail from an
attorney,
Third, to speak of "inane garbage"  -- there seem to be two posters who felt
strongly, one way or another about the sig.  One who seemed worried that it
was 
something from Yahoo!  etc. and 'you,' who seemed to just feel the need to
waste bandwidth over a non-issue.  I won't stoop to the level of engaging
with 
you in a flame war on-list, but if you want to contimue this off-list, I am
more than willing to cross swords with you..  But, one piece of advice, go
get 
a law degree, or at least spend some time in law school, before you
pontificate 
and offer advice on the law..  Unless you are a member of the BAR somewhere,
hat you may do in offering legal advice publicly is make YOURSELF liable for
any damages assessed against third parties who rely upon it, not to mention
the 
possibility of being prosecuted for pratcticing law without a license..

Just a friendly warning... Your mileage may vary.

Keith

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One little note on Copyright... If an image or writing is copyrighted and 
mailed to you.  The copyright remains with the author anyway.  All the 
statement does is provide the copyright holder with presumptive grounds for 
liquidated damages charges AND make the recipient aware that a copyright 
applies, so the recipient cannot claim lack of knowledge/notice, as grounds for 
mitigated punitive damages, should they choose to publish/re-publish the 
writing or imagery.  

And, while I am NOT a practicing attorney I did spend a good deal of time in 
law school, working as a law clerk, and later involved with intellectual 
property and privacy issues as a lobbyist. (To include new causes of action 
privacy law based upon cases in my own name where I was both plaintiff and 
counsel of record.  That's called "Pro Se".

But you probably knew all that already, being an expert on the law yourself.  ;-
)

Keith

> Bill Morse
> PhotoProspect
> Cambridge, MA 02139
> 
> PS it's truly amazing how (when you're not one of the combatants) you can
> see these things gathering strength, swirling around, until finally it
> breaks out and suddenly we have 50 messages in the in-box!  LOL


Kind of like a hurricane.....