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pH of quad inks

pH of quad inks

2002-03-28 by Jeff Magidson

The Cone site implies that MIS inks might have a higher pH and are more
prone to Metamerism:

From the Cone site:

"Piezography\ufffdinks are not subject to the metamerism found in dye based
inks nor dye/pigment inks. Metamerism is the tendency for an ink system
to appear different under varying light conditions. For example,
Piezography\ufffd prints do not change dramatically under tungsten,
fluorescent and incandescent light sources. The same can not be said for
ink systems produced by EPSON, LYSON, MIS and others. Additionally, our
inks have a pH basic rating of 9 which makes them EPSON compatible.
Competing inks are often acidic."

Re: [Digital BW] pH of quad inks

2002-03-29 by Todd Flashner

> The Cone site implies that MIS inks might have a higher pH and are more
> prone to Metamerism:
> 
> From the Cone site:
> 
> "Piezography™inks are not subject to the metamerism found in dye based
> inks nor dye/pigment inks. Metamerism is the tendency for an ink system
> to appear different under varying light conditions. For example,
> Piezography™ prints do not change dramatically under tungsten,
> fluorescent and incandescent light sources. The same can not be said for
> ink systems produced by EPSON, LYSON, MIS and others. Additionally, our
> inks have a pH basic rating of 9 which makes them EPSON compatible.
> Competing inks are often acidic."

I don't mean to bash Cone or try to bolster any of the companies he tries to
impugn, but I think a broad statement like this needs to be read very
carefully and deconstructed.

First off, this snippet was taken from the PiezoBW blurb. I think it's
specious of Jon to imply that HIS inks should perform better than
dye/pigment inks when he's admitted that the PiezoBW inks THEMSELVES are
dye/pigment.

Furthermore, unless Jon knows something we don't, Epson does not yet sell a
Quad ink, so I don't know what he's comparing to of their line; and Epson's
most metameric product is their encapsulated pigments which have no dye.

All in all I believe Cone is not comparing apples to oranges, and the whole
statement is a squishy mess.

Lastly, inks, in a usable sense, not a quantum mechanical sense ;-), will
only be as archival as the papers/coatings they are used on. Until we know
what pH a given paper/coating is optimized for I wouldn't pay much attention
to the pH of the ink that is put on it. (Pity Harvey's not here to call
foolish for saying as much ;-))

Todd

Re: [Digital BW] pH of quad inks

2002-03-29 by Todd Flashner

on 3/29/02 1:28 AM, Todd Flashner wrote:

> Lastly, inks, in a usable sense, not a quantum mechanical sense ;-), will
> only be as archival as the papers/coatings they are used on. Until we know
> what pH a given paper/coating is optimized for I wouldn't pay much attention
> to the pH of the ink that is put on it. (Pity Harvey's not here to call
> foolish for saying as much ;-))
> 
> Todd

Er, that should have read "Pity Harvey's not here to call
ME foolish for saying as much".

Todd

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